Exchanging Canes

[JAPAN of 2005]

On my yard...we dont haven't any SGRho's; so when I see them I just absorb them! (smile), but in WV-MD-VA area, the Indi-Luv is shown esp. when we go on other yards...even further north in places like connecticut and mass. So it depends on the area and if the orgs have had any issues with each other in past...

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[proud2bSigma]

I dont think the bond is that tight in NYC. It looks as thought the Nupes up here are tight with the AKA's. I actually witnessed some sorors a little salty towards the Nupes saying that we should not "sweat" them. as a neo...Im confused. At a recent function we were not greeted as warmly (if at all) as the AKA's and Delta's by Kappas. I find that the Alphas have been more friendly toward us (hugs and all) I havent even spoke to a Nupe yet and I have been around them several times. :shrugs:

[PearlRuby]

I also live in the northeast and in my experience Greeks in general up here just aren't as friendly. But I've heard the opinion that northeasterners in general aren't as friendly, so maybe that's part of it? I don't know. Overall, in my experience greeks usually don't even acknowledge each other as even greek-to-greek, unless we know each other personally. When I was a neo, I smiled and spoke to every greek I encountered. After being looked at sideways almost every time I did that, I soon learned that friendliness between greeks is not the culture here. There have been exceptions to this of course, but overall this has been my experience.

Regarding the Indi-love concept, when I was brought in, I was taught, "Sigma has no brother fraternity", therefore I had no expectations whatsoever of any kind of connection with any frat. So when I encounter a Kappa I don't know, and as usual he doesn't speak, I'm not phased because I had no expectations that he would in the first place. However, if the rare occasion occurs when a Kappa, or any other greek, speaks or makes a friendly gesture, I of course return that.

[tld221]

Originally Posted by proud2bSigma

I dont think the bond is that tight in NYC. It looks as thought the Nupes up here are tight with the AKA's. I actually witnessed some sorors a little salty towards the Nupes saying that we should not "sweat" them. as a neo...Im confused. At a recent function we were not greeted as warmly (if at all) as the AKA's and Delta's by Kappas. I find that the Alphas have been more friendly toward us (hugs and all) I havent even spoke to a Nupe yet and I have been around them several times. :shrugs:

Originally Posted by PearlRuby

I also live in the northeast and in my experience Greeks in general up here just aren't as friendly. But I've heard the opinion that northeasterners in general aren't as friendly, so maybe that's part of it? I don't know. Overall, in my experience greeks usually don't even acknowledge each other as even greek-to-greek, unless we know each other personally. When I was a neo, I smiled and spoke to every greek I encountered. After being looked at sideways almost every time I did that, I soon learned that friendliness between greeks is not the culture here. There have been exceptions to this of course, but overall this has been my experience.

oh, as for the whole cane issue - i dont touch any Nupe's cane unless i know them and know they won't spazz about it. even them i'm a little cautious. as for my own soror's canes, i would hope that my own sorors would have no issue. i dont own canes anyway, but if i did, it would be no big deal. im just wondering why a Nupe would WANT to twirl an SGRho cane and vice versa. it's just not on my top 10 things to do.


Regarding the Indi-love concept, when I was brought in, I was taught, "Sigma has no brother fraternity", therefore I had no expectations whatsoever of any kind of connection with any frat. So when I encounter a Kappa I don't know, and as usual he doesn't speak, I'm not phased because I had no expectations that he would in the first place. However, if the rare occasion occurs when a Kappa, or any other greek, speaks or makes a friendly gesture, I of course return that.

co-signing with both sorors. i also was made in NYC with the double sided view on Indi-love--on one hand, we as Sigma woman stand on our own and dont depend on a brother-sister relationship with ANY frat. however, i was also taught to respect that indi-love where it is GIVEN.

so yes, i have grown into the mindset of "the Kappas arent sweating us (well, not in NYC anyway) so why should we sweat them?" i refuse to run after ANY greek like some groupie. if said Kappa is gonna show me love, then i will return it. if they wanna act brand new and flock after some other D9 sistergreek (NTTAWWT), they can do them and i can do me.

now some greeks may see that as Sigma women being XYZ or whatever you wanna call it, but whatever man. It's nice to have that bond, but we hardly need to rely on it.

ETA: and that whole "oh the Kappas used to walk the SGRhos home and use the canes as defense" story... ive been told that is hoohah. i mean, the universities are 1.5 hours apart by DRIVING... but i wasnt exactly around in 1922 to verify so... yeah.

[BlueReign]

Originally Posted by tld221

co-signing with both sorors. i also was made in NYC with the double sided view on Indi-love--on one hand, we as Sigma woman stand on our own and dont depend on a brother-sister relationship with ANY frat. however, i was also taught to respect that indi-love where it is GIVEN.

so yes, i have grown into the mindset of "the Kappas arent sweating us (well, not in NYC anyway) so why should we sweat them?" i refuse to run after ANY greek like some groupie. if said Kappa is gonna show me love, then i will return it. if they wanna act brand new and flock after some other D9 sistergreek (NTTAWWT), they can do them and i can do me.

now some greeks may see that as Sigma women being XYZ or whatever you wanna call it, but whatever man. It's nice to have that bond, but we hardly need to rely on it.

ETA: and that whole "oh the Kappas used to walk the SGRhos home and use the canes as defense" story... ive been told that is hoohah. i mean, the universities are 1.5 hours apart by DRIVING... but i wasnt exactly around in 1922 to verify so... yeah.

Soror, well said. When it is given, I return it. I used to think this was a regional thing but it is not cause I have encountered some who show love from various areas and some from the same areas don't. It depends on how they were taught. Other than that, I sure don't sweat it.

I'm tired of this topic coming up!

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by proud2bSigma

I dont think the bond is that tight in NYC. It looks as thought the Nupes up here are tight with the AKA's. I actually witnessed some sorors a little salty towards the Nupes saying that we should not "sweat" them. as a neo...Im confused. At a recent function we were not greeted as warmly (if at all) as the AKA's and Delta's by Kappas. I find that the Alphas have been more friendly toward us (hugs and all) I havent even spoke to a Nupe yet and I have been around them several times. :shrugs:

Hey neo!

There is nothing to be confused about. Sigma Gamma Rho and Kappa Alpha Psi are not officially brother and sister anywhere; although on some campuses they have a close relationship and they may refer to one another as such (which is why we carry/step with canes and some of our sorors know how to twirl them). I'm from the North (Philly to be exact) and the kappas and sgrhos at my undergrad and in the area do not call each other brother and sister generally, although I have come across some Kappas that feel that way toward us. At my undergrad (and this was back in '93), we had sort of a love/hate relationship with the Kappas. One minute we couldn't stand each other and the next minute they would get mad at us for having too many parties with XYZ fraternity. They also didn't care if we took their canes, which we did any time we wanted to and there wasn't a problem other than our usual displays of love/hate. I think overall, we really cared about one another and respected the obvious connection we had.

My rule is...if you show me love, I'll show you love back, but I don't expect anything from anyone.