it's a damn shame....

[Rudey]

Originally posted by moe.ron
1)"I've got an idea, let's kill all Muslims." That pretty much advocating genocide.

2) So, it's more of the Arab culture, and not the religion. I can understand that. Though, I would put the blame more on the leadership of the region for not only advocating, but trying to spread it. More in particular, the House of Saud.

1) Here is an article on Indonesia: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...ICLE_ID=38239. Again I don't know enough to comment nor do I had the full interest.

2) You're trying to judge his quote based on his quote. Perhaps you'd have fun with some of these? My point in posting these is perhaps there is more of a message than just a couple words that this man has to say. Either way, I haven't had the time to look at this nor had I even heard about it until today to form my own opinion about it. My posts were to initally say that if this is something that has merit, then it shouldn't piggy back on other cultures and religions - especially if you can't seem to find problems with Muslims who make those same statements.

-O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. [al-Ma'idah 5:51.11]

-Muslims are encouraged to be wholly occupied (Sura 2:273) with fighting for Allah's cause.

- Allah will give "a far richer recompense to those who fight for him" (Sura 4:96).

- Regarding infidels (unbelievers), they are the Muslim's "inveterate enemies" (Sura 4:101). Muslims are to "arrest them, besiege them and lie in ambush everywhere" (Sura 9:5) for them. They are to "seize them and put them to death wherever you find them, kill them wherever you find them, seek out the enemies of Islam relentlessly" (Sura 4:90). "Fight them until Islam reigns supreme" (Sura 2:193). "Cut off their heads, and cut off the tips of their fingers" (Sura 8:12).

- If a Muslim does not go to war, Allah will kill him (Sura 9:39). He is to be told, "the heat of war is fierce, but more fierce is the heat of Hell-fire" (Sura 9:81).

- A Muslim must "fight for the cause of Allah with the devotion due to him" (Sura 22:78)

- Muslims must make war on the infidels (unbelievers) who live around them (Sura 9:123).

- Muslims are to be "ruthless to unbelievers" (Sura 48:29).

- A Muslim should "enjoy the good things" he has gained by fighting (Sura 8:69).

- A Muslim can kill any person he wishes if it be a "just cause" (Sura 6:152).

- Allah loves those who "fight for his cause" (Sura 61:3).
Anyone who fights against Allah or renounces Islam in favor of another religion shall be "put to death or crucified or have their hands and feet cut off alternative sides" (Sura 5:34).

- Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him. Sahih Al-Bukhari (9:57)

- Slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush. (Koran 9:5)

- Take him and fetter him and expose him to hell fire. (Koran 69:30-37)

- I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them. (Koran 8:12)

- They should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides. (Koran 5:33)

- Know that paradise is under the shades of swords. Sahih al-Bukhari Vol 4 p55

3) Very few people understand how the house of Saud as well as certain aspects of religion and culture have retarded the regional development - including many stupid anglos and Americans who protest things they know nothing about.

-Rudey