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Excuse my lateness ladygreek. What I was referring to when I said, "Not again" was the hazing in general. I'm sure all of us know that there is a difference between hazing and pledgeing. Hazing, IMO, is a sadistic act perpetrated against a less than willing yet submissive participant for some asinine purpose that has nothing to do with the fraternity.
I'm sick of the :You gotta get beat to be made right mentality" or the "somebody did it to me, so I'm gonna do it to them" mentality. That is utter stupidity.
Alpha gave OSU's chapter 15 years because of the various acitivities that had occured both on and off campus. The shooting off campus, an altercation with another organization at a neophyte presentation, another altercation with the same organization at an off-campus unsanctioned party, and then this. They had stopped being an asset and became a liability. It's a damn shame too...they were a good chapter before this streak of negative stuff.
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