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Old 02-18-2008, 04:08 PM
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It should. The goal is to move from "certain types of people in certain environments" to a more inclusive discussion of "learned behaviors and other criminal motivations that may be increased with criminal opportunities including gun access."

Other variables do not remove the usefulness of the study. Demographics are always controlled for. Gun training isn't controlled for because that data is not available. There is no central agency that monitors that and reports the data. That data also won't be available if students get guns on campuses, just like it isn't available now with the concealed weapons permits.



I like this choice of words better than "unchallenged."
Demographics certainly should be controlled for. However, I suspect that they might yield disparate results which may lessen or increase the appropriateness of their application to the campus context. However, I don't know anything about the data you're referring to, and whether or not it applies across a swath of variables that would lend support to this argument is speculation from my angle. Also, I'm not sure I understand your goal. Aren't certain learned behaviors and criminal motivations going to be more common among certain people in certain environments?

I meant unchallenged, I just have an annoying habit of not being able to use the same term repeatedly in an ongoing conversation.

I want to get back into this discussion, but other dueling posters have taken over after your post. Damn, these are long posts, too.
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