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Old 01-24-2005, 03:53 PM
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Would you go for this trade?

We'll help repeal the "no third term" constitutional amendment, so Slick Willie can have another chance.

You help repeal the "no foreign born" constitutional amendment, so Arnold can whip his fanny and Hillary's too.
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Old 01-24-2005, 03:58 PM
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Old 01-24-2005, 04:23 PM
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I thought repealing "no foreign born" was pretty much bipartisan- afterall, there's a governor in Michigan who would make a great first female president.
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Old 01-24-2005, 05:11 PM
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I thought the no third term limit was on consecutive terms?
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Old 01-24-2005, 05:35 PM
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I thought the no third term limit was on consecutive terms?
Gonna have to check on that. It is true for the governors of some states, but I don't think it is with the President.

ETA this from the Encarta Encyclopedia:

"The XXII Amendment of the Constitution states a person can only serve two terms as president."

There is no mention of consecutive.
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Old 01-24-2005, 06:50 PM
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nope. I'm hoping intertia will keep both those laws in place.
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Old 01-24-2005, 07:45 PM
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I think that both laws should stay in place. Think of this scenerio: What if there was a foreign born person who came over here and was a sweet talker and was able to gain popularity but really had a secret agenda against the U.S. and wanted to destroy our gov. Could be a long stretch, but with all of the anti-americans I wouldn't be surprised if one of them came up with that idea.
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Old 01-24-2005, 11:52 PM
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I thought repealing "no foreign born" was pretty much bipartisan- afterall, there's a governor in Michigan who would make a great first female president.
She's losing support quickly as she's starting to look like a Republican in Democrat's clothes... And I totally supported her in the election too. <sigh>

Dee

ETA: I forgot to comment on the other part. I think, with security and terrorist concerns that have come up since 9/11 that it would be more risky than ever to allow a foreign born person to become President. There has been a lot of talk about sleeper terrorist cells and I just don't think this is the time to reconsider that particular issue.

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Old 01-25-2005, 12:33 AM
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I think that both laws should stay in place. Think of this scenerio: What if there was a foreign born person who came over here and was a sweet talker and was able to gain popularity but really had a secret agenda against the U.S. and wanted to destroy our gov. Could be a long stretch, but with all of the anti-americans I wouldn't be surprised if one of them came up with that idea.
Then foreign adoptees will never be able to be president.

p.s. I hope you don't mind a non-US citizen's input
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Old 01-25-2005, 02:45 AM
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I definitely think foreign born people should be permitted to run for president, provided that they have been United States citizens for a set amount of time. There are plenty of people with American born parents who just happened to be born out of the country and therefore could never run. I also know many many smart people who moved here with their parents when they were little and are great, intelligent citizens. (The validictorian and salutatorian of my high school class were both Indian born). I feel that being born on American soil in no way makes you a good candidate. It should only matter how LONG you've been an American citizen. Your birth place is totally out of your control!
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Old 01-25-2005, 02:50 AM
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Lieberman called McCain "brother"

Are they in the same fraternity?
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Old 01-25-2005, 02:58 AM
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She's losing support quickly as she's starting to look like a Republican in Democrat's clothes... And I totally supported her in the election too. <sigh>

Dee

ETA: I forgot to comment on the other part. I think, with security and terrorist concerns that have come up since 9/11 that it would be more risky than ever to allow a foreign born person to become President. There has been a lot of talk about sleeper terrorist cells and I just don't think this is the time to reconsider that particular issue.
What if the sleeper cell consist of individuals born in the country?
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Old 01-25-2005, 07:07 AM
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Good point.
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Old 01-25-2005, 10:28 AM
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afterall, there's a governor in Michigan who would make a great first female president.
Are you kidding?!
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Old 01-25-2005, 10:36 AM
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Both of these laws are there for a reason. There are a lot of really BAD laws I'd change before I'd touch either of these.
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