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07-14-2004, 12:38 AM
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OK I dont like to talk much about this because its a very sad story and scary too, but this happened at the university of Akron to two of my sorority sisters of Alpha Delta Pi back in 1986. It made all the newspapers and sometimes we have got calls from reporters about it still but we dont answer any questions.
Two boys murdered two ADPis in Akron and one was supposed to get executed in 2003. I havent heard anything about why he hasnt yet, but its been held up.
Here is an article about it if you want to read more.
ADPi Murders
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07-14-2004, 02:29 AM
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Ted Bundy went to my school (University of Utah) and during the olympics here in Salt Lake City, everyone had to move into the old dorms that are now condemed (b.c. our newer dorms were the olympic village) and they filled up all of the old dorm rooms except Bundy's which they left empty. I also heard about him getting into the Chi-O house in Utah, but that easily could have been FSU i'm getting mixed up. He just went to school here. Oh...but supposidly there's a ghost in our sorority house. Girls have seen her....i havent ...yet ha!
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07-14-2004, 02:32 AM
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Oh! and we've had an old naked pervert man stalking the sororities. He's uing our door bell numerous times and he snuck onto the Kappa roof naked to look into their windows! Use the BUDDY SYSTEM!!!!
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07-14-2004, 03:04 AM
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Okay no...Ted Bundy went to the University of Washington i just looked it up! ha! i guess that's a myth...my bad sorry!!
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07-14-2004, 03:11 AM
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Re: To the AOPI AT UF THAT SAID THE FSU STORY WAS UNTRUE
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Originally posted by OrmondBeachGirl
I don't mean to burst your bubble but I called FSU today and asked, AOPI IS banned at FSU for the murder of Bessie and because they were doing witchcraft..
http://writing.fsu.edu/cwc/fa00/clow..._html/aopi.htm
There is a link and also it tells you where to go look for proof Panhellenic Office 1-850-644-3532
Call that number -nhpgator-
I know the Sig Eps at FSU and they have even asked!! AOPI IS BANNED AT FSU!! Check the links call the number
Sorry to burst your bubble again!!
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The article says they were banned because of the witchcraft but they never proved the murder. If this really is true, it is ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING that FSU would continue a ban that was based on a conflict of religion. If I EVER met a Wiccan Soror, I would love her unconditionally, as I love ALL my Sorors!!!
I LOVE my Theta Nu!
ETA: This rant is not directed at OrmondBeachGirl. It's specifically for FSU and that's all good because I'm a Georgia BULLDOG!
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07-14-2004, 06:25 AM
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Originally posted by SigPhiSunshine
yea for anyone farmililar with EMU the house that the michigan murders took place at is at college place and emmit, but i also found that the man who did it was a mentally retarted or something like that, but it didnt say anything about being a theta chi
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He was a student at EMU at the time and was a sociopath, but he wasn't mentally retarded. He was in a fraternity. You can read some bits and pieces about him on this site:
John Norman Collins
I've read as much as I can about this guy...
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07-14-2004, 07:26 AM
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ormandbeach girl
you are wrong. my senior year at fsu(1979) i was a rush counselor and a o pi participated in formal recruitment. they were trying to recolonize after being off campus for a few years. they were on campus in the early 70's when my cousin, an a d pi, was there. she lived in the a o pi house for a quarter(we were on the quarter system then) until a spot came open at the a d pi house.
AND i believe alpha omicron pi was one of the sororities invited to make a presentation this past spring to fsu panhellenic, although sigma delta tau was invited to colonize.
also, i am not sure that florida state college for women had an a o pi chapter at the time stated in the story. can any a o pi sisters back me up? what was the first founding date of the a o pi chapter at florida state college for women, now florida state university?
i just investigated the a o pi website . the sorority was founded in 1897, so could not possibly have had a chapter in the fsu campus in 1889!
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07-14-2004, 08:03 AM
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i have - my brother is a student there and AOII was chosen as one of the three finalists to present on that campus just recently.. although AOII turned down the opportunity to present due to other reasons...
Additionally, the story says the house was being cleaned in 1889 - AOII was not even founded until 1897...
that article has been circulating for years... i have been to that house... which now belongs to the university...
additionally, the pineapple was not the symbol of AOII. The pinapple is the symbol of hospitality used since the civil war times in the south... and was used on many building to express hospitality, in fact it is the lapel pin symbol of the Hospitality Industry...
I hope this will clear up some of the misconceptions....
additionally, if you look at teh rest of the stories on the page, i think it will clarify that this is as true as the rest of the stories on the seminole star page.... in case you don't want to look, some of the titles are "Fraternity Returns Pregnant "t Was In The Water", "seminole princess" - a story about a FSU student who will marry Prince William in Nov. 2002,
http://writing.fsu.edu/cwc/fa00/cloweb/public_html
AND if you go back farther to
http://writing.fsu.edu you will see it is a creative writing class website.....
I love a good story as anyone.... but this one is unfortunately untrue!!
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07-14-2004, 10:21 AM
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I appreciate the help of every greek member who has posted here and tried to dispel the rumors of AOII and FSU. Although people believe what they wish to believe and sometimes don't care to hear the truth, I am sure I speak for other AOII GC members when I say we appreciate your efforts.
This subject has been recently discussed and (I thought) was put to rest at that time. It would be great if everyone could realize that just because you found a "story" on the internet does not mean it happened.
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07-14-2004, 10:33 AM
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http://writing.fsu.edu/cwc/fa00/clo...c_html/aopi.htm
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Great authoritative source, ormondbeachgirl. /sarcasm Perhaps you can get an internship with Alexandra Robbins.
Not only are your source's "sources" unverifiable and extremely weak, but she's outright wrong on a number of easily identifiable issues. For instance, if you know so many SigEps at FSU, perhaps they could tell you that their house is nowhere close to being a hundred years old. Furthermore, as a KD you should know that KD was the first sorority established at FSU (then FSCW) in 1904, which provides further verification that there were no AOPis on campus in 1889, much less any that were practicing witchcraft. Finally, if you had in fact called FSU Panhellenic or even checked its website, you would know that not only has AOPi not been "banned," they were one of the three finalists for recolonization this year.
Maybe it's just the UF-FSU rivalry kicking in, but you should save your heated comments for football season, and not unfairly bash another panhellenic organization.
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07-14-2004, 10:55 AM
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It makes a good story but there's no truth to it. Not only that, but it's not even a story familiar to the campus. It's simply a good yarn made up for a creative writing class.
I was once named the official "AOPi Pledge Class Sweetheart" back in the day, so I am familiar with the chapter history as well as that house. It was built new in 1960; the AOPi chapter was established at FSCW in 1939. FSCW became FSU in 1947. There is in fact an ancient cemetery behind the house and that helps make for a good story.
Several sororities built new houses at FSU around 1960: Alpha Phi, KKG, and AOPi took on considerable financial burdens that became unbearble when the hippie era hit ten years later. Alpha Phi and AOPi eventually closed and Kappa almost went under. The writer said the University owns the house: no, the U. bought the Alpha Phi house nearby. Both sororities closed about the same time. The AOPi's sold their house to Sigma Phi Epsilon who occupies it today. They were going to move out to the new fraternity row, but decided instead to rennovate the house and stay there. I don't know why AOPi sold the house instead of waiting out the bad times; maybe the financial burden was just too much.
The AOPi chapter was good and I would like to see them return. There's no ban, permanent or any other kind. Hopes this helps.
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07-14-2004, 11:53 AM
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Well..
It is suppose to be one big thread full of stories that we have heard... The sig ep boys go right along with the story so it would do me no good to ask... Uf-Fsu has nothing to do with... I posted what I had heard... If I was wrong I am wrong.... But its still fun every year to have Bessies Ball and junk like that... So there must be some truth to something If SIGEP every year throws Bessies Ball.. Come on now... Seriously don't jump down my throat If i'm wrong I'm wrong.... But its still fun everytime I walk in Sigep to think of ghost.... Oh and btw the tunnels posted in the story ARE 100% REAL.... I have seen with my own eyes.... To chicken to crawl through them but they are 100% real!!!! As is her grave!!! I no longer care about this subject.... Its wasting my time to fight with people I don't know....
Second I would never get a job for Alexandra Robbins her book offened me.... As a KAPPA DELTA I can say we are not the klans daughters one bit... She needs to learn to keep secrets locked away in the bond of sisterhood and those girls who helped her need to be kicked out because they broke the bond of sisterhood!!!! I love KAPPA DELTA!!!!
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07-14-2004, 11:56 AM
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Re: Re: To the AOPI AT UF THAT SAID THE FSU STORY WAS UNTRUE
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The article says they were banned because of the witchcraft but they never proved the murder. If this really is true, it is ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING that FSU would continue a ban that was based on a conflict of religion. If I EVER met a Wiccan Soror, I would love her unconditionally, as I love ALL my Sorors!!!
I LOVE my Theta Nu!
ETA: This rant is not directed at OrmondBeachGirl. It's specifically for FSU and that's all good because I'm a Georgia BULLDOG!
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In response to a PM I got from an AOII sister, I wanted to clarify my position. I was not in any way suggesting that AOII did anything wrong.
I was saying how awful it would be for a school to ban anyone for being Wiccan. The problem is that things get blown out of proportion. Witchcraft doesn't involved killing anyone or using the things that the article mentions were found in the house.
Anyway, I specifically said If this is really true. I never said I believed it or supported any decision made. So, please, before you accuse me of slander, get your facts straight.
If you're going to call me out, do it in the open forum, not over PM.
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07-14-2004, 12:07 PM
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Re: Well..
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It is suppose to be one big thread full of stories that we have heard...
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It's not supposed to be things that are detrimental to other sororities' reputations. Talking about a ghost in the XYZ house that likes to do laundry is not on the same par with spreading untrue rumours that have already been refuted further up the thread. It's a story from a creative writing class and not in the least bit true. Learn how to read (and spell while you're at it).
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07-14-2004, 12:22 PM
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Like seriously its over!!!! Thanks mrs teacher 101.....Get over the story already... No one will ever know the truth or anything because Bessie is dead... So its over.... Please leave me along about the stupid story
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