Spelman Students Protest: Don't like the music? Should you ignore the cause?

Eclipse · #1 04-06-2004, 06:34 PM

Students at Spelman College protested the appearance of Nelly last week because of a video "Drill Tip". I am not familar with it, but it's supposedly goes above the "normal" raunchiness of rap videos. Nelly'a appearance was in conjunction with a bone marrow drive set up by his foundation. When he found out about the protest the drive and his appearance was cancelled.

What do you think? Should the "good cause" (bone marrow drive) out weigh the students feelings about Nelly? BTW, the SGA president has stated that they will have another drive in the near future, just with out Nelly.

Here's a link to an article that was in the AJC

http://www.ajc.com/thursday/content/...6f1e51011.html

abaici · #2 04-06-2004, 06:45 PM

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Originally posted by Eclipse
Students at Spelman College protested the appearance of Nelly last week because of a video "Drill Tip". I am not familar with it, but it's supposedly goes above the "normal" raunchiness of rap videos. Nelly'a appearance was in conjunction with a bone marrow drive set up by his foundation. When he found out about the protest the drive and his appearance was cancelled.

What do you think? Should the "good cause" (bone marrow drive) out weigh the students feelings about Nelly? BTW, the SGA president has stated that they will have another drive in the near future, just with out Nelly.

Here's a link to an article that was in the AJC

http://www.ajc.com/thursday/content/...6f1e51011.html

It's actually Tip Drill

. Unfortunately, I saw this video. Indeed, it was beyond the "normal" raunchiness: lesbian hot tub scenes and swiping a credit card down a woman's behind.

The SGA suggested a forum centering on sexism in music, etc. However, the company backed out. Do I think the "principle" won over the cause? No. I attended Spelman. I know that community service is paramount. So, they WILL find a way to raise awareness, as well as, hold this drive.

I applaud my Spelman sistas for taking the unpopular stance. I would have found it deplorable if the premier institution for Black women in America (excuse the school pride here for a sec) just let him come to campus without addressing his hypocrisy. How can you proclaim your love for one woman, while you disrespect all others.

33girl · #3 04-07-2004, 12:27 AM

Yikes....just out of curiousity, is this video actually being shown on TV anywhere?

I definitely think the women did the right thing.

Imperial11 · #4 04-07-2004, 12:35 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by 33girl
[B]Yikes....just out of curiousity, is this video actually being shown on TV anywhere?

It sure is!!! I made the mistake of watching BET the other night and it came on that show called UNCUT. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that video was just too much. It was horrible! To me, the blurring that they did of the body parts didn't do much good. I could still see too much. It's not something for kids to be watching, so I hope it doesn't come on during the day.

abaici · #5 04-07-2004, 01:29 AM

No, but please believe they've seen it. Some of them just disregard proper bed times. But, we are in the age of the VCR, and better yet, TIVO.

Impressed SF · #6 04-07-2004, 07:54 AM

I saw the video on BET's "Uncut" one weekend and it was nasty then ,but one of my friends said that they went to a club and all the stuff that is bleeped out on BET is all clear in the club.

Accolades to the women of Spelman for taking a stand against something that is just plain tacky.

lovelyivy84 · #7 04-07-2004, 09:10 AM

I give MAJOR props to the women of Spelman.

Bravo!

As to that tip drill video, I have not seen it and will not see it. Seeing it would mean that I stayed up til 3 am and watched BET ON PURPOSE.

Such things just don't happen.

abaici · #8 04-07-2004, 10:01 AM

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Originally posted by lovelyivy84
I give MAJOR props to the women of Spelman.

Bravo!

As to that tip drill video, I have not seen it and will not see it. Seeing it would mean that I stayed up til 3 am and watched BET ON PURPOSE.

Such things just don't happen.

Sometimes, it's not on purpose...sometimes, you have no control over the remote...

HC I feel the need to explain WHY I saw this dumb video

Intense1920 · #9 04-07-2004, 10:18 AM

I saw it by accident and really wish that I hadn't.

I applaud the ladies of Spelman for making a stand.

nikki1920 · #10 04-07-2004, 10:29 AM

I saw it and was like

the whole video. During the credit card scene, I was just

. WTF would make you want to do that kind of video?

Sistermadly · #11 04-07-2004, 10:38 AM

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Originally posted by abaici
HC I feel the need to explain WHY I saw this dumb video

Chalk it up to "ethnographic research" and move on.

("Yes, I was doing an unobtrusive observation on the spending habits of the urban African American male, using a video performance by the artist Nelly as a departure point for my analysis...")

abaici · #12 04-07-2004, 10:51 AM

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Originally posted by Sistermadly
Chalk it up to "ethnographic research" and move on.

("Yes, I was doing an unobtrusive observation on the spending habits of the urban African American male, using a video performance by the artist Nelly as a departure point for my analysis...")

Yeah, what she said. LOL

Conskeeted7 · #13 04-07-2004, 01:31 PM

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Originally posted by abaici
It's actually Tip Drill . Unfortunately, I saw this video. Indeed, it was beyond the "normal" raunchiness: lesbian hot tub scenes and swiping a credit card down a woman's behind.

The SGA suggested a forum centering on sexism in music, etc. However, the company backed out. Do I think the "principle" won over the cause? No. I attended Spelman. I know that community service is paramount. So, they WILL find a way to raise awareness, as well as, hold this drive.

I applaud my Spelman sistas for taking the unpopular stance. I would have found it deplorable if the premier institution for Black women in America (excuse the school pride here for a sec) just let him come to campus without addressing his hypocrisy. How can you proclaim your love for one woman, while you disrespect all others.

Just to play devil's advocate for a minute...why turn down Nelly's bone marrow drive if it's the music that you have a problem with? And I bet he didn't have to beg any of those strippers to do what they did in the video. They are probably proud of their performances and would do it again in a heartbeat. True, it is not a good image to have of any woman, but if he is trying to redeem himself through a good cause, why knock him for it? Maybe he's just doing what he knows will make money so that he can draw attention to better causes like bone marrow. If those strippers weren't dancing for him, they'd be dancing for someone else. He just gave them an additional venue.

abaici · #14 04-07-2004, 06:45 PM

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Originally posted by Conskeeted7
Just to play devil's advocate for a minute...why turn down Nelly's bone marrow drive if it's the music that you have a problem with? And I bet he didn't have to beg any of those strippers to do what they did in the video. They are probably proud of their performances and would do it again in a heartbeat. True, it is not a good image to have of any woman, but if he is trying to redeem himself through a good cause, why knock him for it? Maybe he's just doing what he knows will make money so that he can draw attention to better causes like bone marrow. If those strippers weren't dancing for him, they'd be dancing for someone else. He just gave them an additional venue.

True! My thing is, that they were willing for him to still come, with a small (IMHO) condition. He said, no. In the end, he pulled out.

Eclipse · #15 04-21-2004, 11:27 AM

The bone marrow drive was just weeks away. Asha Jennings was excited at the prospect of Spelman College teaming with 4Sho4Kids — a foundation started by rapper Nelly — to bring attention to an important cause.

For months, the 21-year-old had been organizing the marrow drive. She and her friends were talking about it in Decatur early on the morning of March 15.

The conversation eventually turned to music videos — one in particular.

"What's 'Tip Drill?' " Jennings asked.

"A bunch of strippers shaking their butts,'' she was told.

"Who's the artist?''

"Your boy, Nelly,'' came the answer.

It was Jennings' first step into an issue that has sparked several protests at her school — one is scheduled today — and has renewed discussion of the denigration of black women in music videos.

To read more go to
http://www.ajc.com/living/content/li...21protest.html

you may have to register to read it, but it is free.

Thanks to this article, I also learned what Tip Drill means

Just the term I need to add to my lexicon