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08-25-2003, 05:00 PM
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I BELIEVE they are the Union Triad plus a couple others....but I'm not sure.
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08-25-2003, 05:05 PM
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Ok, I'd like to run this by you guys to get your opinion of whether or not this is "stealing" or what not.
I find it great that NPHC GLOs take pride in the yr they were founded, and I know Alpha Phi Alpha's call is their founding yr, so would you see something wrong if my chapter said "1-8" "9-9"?
Note: NOT a troll post, I actually want to bring this to my chapter.
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08-25-2003, 05:17 PM
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Era I fraternities are typically referred to as those in the mid 1820's to 1860 or so.
Stan, the Beta's here do the same thing as the APhiA's, except using 1839 - they love it. Again, no asses handed on platters.
WPTW - great analogy of all this starting way back when....
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08-25-2003, 05:19 PM
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wptw....comes out from the shadows and saves the day when you least expect it. thanks for the knowledge.
Stan...now, please take into consideration that although I am an Alpha, I am a pretty liberal one. If you want to shout out the year you were founded, nobody can take that away from you. My suggestion is to be as unique about it as possible, and be able to justify why you do it (if you so choose).
Cuz at the end of the day, if somebody has a problem with that, they really have too much free time in the first place.
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08-25-2003, 05:35 PM
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Dividing the groups into “eras” based on group character or on the prevailing circumstances of their founding is interesting, but somewhat arbitrary by nature. The guy who has the McRae greek pages put the following groups into the Era I category, and I tend to agree with him.
Kappa Alpha Society 1825
Sigma Phi Society 1827
Delta Phi Fraternity 1827
Alpha Delta Phi 1831
Psi Upsilon 1833
Delta Upsilon 1834
Beta Theta Pi 1839
Chi Psi 1841
Delta Kappa Epsilon 1844
Alpha Sigma Phi 1845
Delta Psi 1847
Zeta Psi 1847
Theta Delta Chi 1847
Phi Gamma Delta 1848
Phi Delta Theta 1848
Phi Kappa Sigma 1850
Phi Kappa Psi 1852
Chi Phi 1824/1854
Sigma Chi 1855
Sigma Alpha Epsilon 1856
Theta Chi 1856
Delta Tau Delta 1858
::back into the shadows::
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08-25-2003, 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by SigmaChiGuy
Please explain to me the difference between "YOU KNOW" and "YOU KNOOOOOOOOOW", besides the extra O's.
Also, where the hell is Norf Currrrlina?
You said "We know, we know, we know...some of "you" get really sensitive and paranoid when things APPEAR to be black and white " Please, tell me what "you" means? Does that mean the "white race"? You have been assuming, so I will assume too. You are pointing out black from white, so its not a matter of appearance anymore.
I say "You're damn right I get mad. It's always the white man trying to keep the black man down." Pure bullshit.
Lastly, thanks for participating.
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1.) The difference in spelling is to show the difference in how it is said. That seems pretty self evident, since "calls" are said, as opposed to written.
2.) North Carolina...see above for a similar explanation
3.) Hmmmm..."you" means whatever "you" would mean when the word YOU has quotation marks around it. Have fun figuring it out, as I will have fun with whatever conclusion you draw.
This became a race issue because of defensiveness and paranoia. So "you" all can make from it what "you" choose.
Check my signature for how I feel about the "white man..." blahzey blah you just typed.
P.S. Everything I say is said for a reason. Riddle #1,913.
Thanks for participating.
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08-25-2003, 05:44 PM
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Originally posted by Shine
No no no. You're ALL missing the point, because there ISN'T a point to the inane arguing in this thread.
Get the ish over it, mmmkay?
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How about you get over it, mmmkay?
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08-25-2003, 05:50 PM
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Originally posted by wptw
So, maybe Phi Mu did copy the DST yell. Maybe not. Who cares? Both groups took the original concept from an Era I fraternity anyway. There's nothing new under the sun.
Frankly, it is interesting though... the practice started as a way to secretly identify yourself, and today it has evolved into a way of proudly announcing or promoting yourself.
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Yeah, who cares?  We were NEVER talking about PhiMu copying the DST "yell." So, yeah...who cares?
Your Era I theory does not quite apply to ALL GLOs, too. Just a thought.
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08-25-2003, 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by AXEgirl
Hmmm...How about this?
1. How about NPC/IFC people stop making this into a race thing? Cause I read this thread, and I could tell that it was the non-NPHC-ers who threw in the whole "race thing".
2. ATTENTION NPC/IFC: To the NPHC, doing someone's call when you are not a member of that org. is like wearing your letters when you not a member. Would a Phi Mu wear Chi O on her chest? I don't think so. Well, in the D9 world, doing an Alpha call when you're a Sigma is the same. It just doesn't happen.
3. I think some people got too damn sensitive cause someone asked a question. If you don't know the answer, then just say that. And...If somebody wasn't talking to you, then don't say anything, k? How about that...
***stepping off soapbox*** Thank you and have a good night...
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Yup....
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08-25-2003, 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by breathesgelatin
To my knowledge, Pi Beta Phi has no call/whistle. I think it's really interesting that some NPC/IFC orgs use these.
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Actually I remember seeing the Pi Phi whistle in a song book in our archives. I have no idea how it sounds though.
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08-25-2003, 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by Angelic
Actually I remember seeing the Pi Phi whistle in a song book in our archives. I have no idea how it sounds though.
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For clarification:
Would that mean that Pi Phi has a regional or chapter call, as opposed to a national call? Just wondering, since the other Pi Phi was unaware of one.
Also, if you read where there is a whistle, or any other call, do you ever come in contact with older members who could let you know how it sounds?
Just asking out of genuine curiosity
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08-25-2003, 06:13 PM
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If something is found in a national/international songbook, it's national/international. I think a reason you aren't getting a lot of answers is because a lot of this is a ritual secret for NPC and IFC orgs. Just like we don't know why you OOOO-OOOOP, you can't know why we do or do not play the kazoo as our secret sign to each other.
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08-25-2003, 06:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by ChaosDST
For clarification:
Would that mean that Pi Phi has a regional or chapter call, as opposed to a national call? Just wondering, since the other Pi Phi was unaware of one.
Also, if you read where there is a whistle, or any other call, do you ever come in contact with older members who could let you know how it sounds?
Just asking out of genuine curiosity
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I assume it was a national whistle because it was in a song book from Nationals. But the song book was very old. Maybe that is why breathsgelatin has never heard of it.
But I'm sure there are older Pi Phi's that know how it sounds. It was actually on sheet music so I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to figure out. I would love to hear it. Although it would do me no good because I can't whistle.
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08-25-2003, 06:30 PM
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Originally posted by Angelic
I assume it was a national whistle because it was in a song book from Nationals. But the song book was very old. Maybe that is why breathsgelatin has never heard of it.
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I'll dig through our songbooks and see what I can find when I get back to school. I'm sure it's there.
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08-25-2003, 08:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by AXEgirl
Hmmm...How about this?
1. How about NPC/IFC people stop making this into a race thing? Cause I read this thread, and I could tell that it was the non-NPHC-ers who threw in the whole "race thing".
2. ATTENTION NPC/IFC: To the NPHC, doing someone's call when you are not a member of that org. is like wearing your letters when you not a member. Would a Phi Mu wear Chi O on her chest? I don't think so. Well, in the D9 world, doing an Alpha call when you're a Sigma is the same. It just doesn't happen.
3. I think some people got too damn sensitive cause someone asked a question. If you don't know the answer, then just say that. And...If somebody wasn't talking to you, then don't say anything, k? How about that...
***stepping off soapbox*** Thank you and have a good night...
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man, is it really that hard for people to understand this? good ish, AXE.
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