Prosecutors DISMISSED Kobe Case - Page 6

Gina1201 · #76 07-19-2003, 12:13 PM

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Originally posted by CrimsonTide4
Ol girl is WHITE!! I saw a pic of her on another site, but never bought it over here because it was not a confirmed pic.

I saw the same pic CT4. Not only is old girl white, but she's not pretty either. I'll at least give Vanessa that. Kobe, Kobe, next time please think with the right one. Did anyone see the press conference with him and Vanessa when Kobe was crying?

RedefinedDiva · #77 07-19-2003, 03:15 PM

Aside from Kobe, I am just not in the business of putting alleged rape victims down. How can we ever say when something was or wasn't rape? Take, for instance, the case that the lawyer in the post from Kobe's site sited. How do we know that the young man didn't rape the girl? I am not saying that he did, but if we continue to doubt rape "victims" and state that they are just charging people out of fear, regret, or anger, we will continue to have victims afraid to come forth. Not all rape victims look like the ones on TV--torn clothes, bruises, cuts, etc.

Secondly, I don't think that a woman's color has anything to do it. Last night, someone called into a local radio show and said, "If he would've stuck with the sistas, he wouldn't have these problems." Women of all colors have these problems. No one color has a monopoly on being rape victims, just as no one color has a monopoly on making false accuastions. What is really the problem is that he cheated on his wife. His teammates, GM, etc. are saying that this alleged sexual assault is out of Kobe's character. What about ADULTERY? I understand that the sexual assault overshadows that point right now, but it still needs to be addressed.

Lastly, I know about "groupies" that stalk players. And, like the lawyer said, the players know as well. Therefore, they should be prepared for all sorts of things (i.e. kids, diseases, lawsuits). And the type of thinking that Miss Priss's husband possesses is the reason why so many women in our community are angry and disgusted with the relationships between black men and women, especially rich black men. We are viewed as desparate, aggressive, demanding, etc., while our non-black counterparts are "keepers" and are often sought after. That's all some BULLISHT! I can go on for days in this area, but I will digree. That's a whole 'nother issue and thread.

miss priss · #78 07-19-2003, 04:09 PM

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Originally posted by RedefinedDiva
Aside from Kobe, I am just not in the business of putting alleged rape victims down. How can we ever say when something was or wasn't rape? Take, for instance, the case that the lawyer in the post from Kobe's site sited. How do we know that the young man didn't rape the girl? I am not saying that he did, but if we continue to doubt rape "victims" and state that they are just charging people out of fear, regret, or anger, we will continue to have victims afraid to come forth. Not all rape victims look like the ones on TV--torn clothes, bruises, cuts, etc.

Secondly, I don't think that a woman's color has anything to do it. Last night, someone called into a local radio show and said, "If he would've stuck with the sistas, he wouldn't have these problems." Women of all colors have these problems. No one color has a monopoly on being rape victims, just as no one color has a monopoly on making false accuastions. What is really the problem is that he cheated on his wife. His teammates, GM, etc. are saying that this alleged sexual assault is out of Kobe's character. What about ADULTERY? I understand that the sexual assault overshadows that point right now, but it still needs to be addressed.

Lastly, I know about "groupies" that stalk players. And, like the lawyer said, the players know as well. Therefore, they should be prepared for all sorts of things (i.e. kids, diseases, lawsuits). And the type of thinking that Miss Priss's husband possesses is the reason why so many women in our community are angry and disgusted with the relationships between black men and women, especially rich black men. We are viewed as desparate, aggressive, demanding, etc., while our non-black counterparts are "keepers" and are often sought after. That's all some BULLISHT! I can go on for days in this area, but I will digree. That's a whole 'nother issue and thread.

I agree with you RD, the thinking does perpetuate ignorance. It is our job as Black mothers to teach our sons a different frame of thinking. However, when (the majority)athletes are caught up in situations such as these typically black men are normally accused of assault by white women. This feeds itself into a media frenzy that makes SOME mediocre instances into overrated situations. Now did Kobe do it ? I don't know---if he did he should pay.
What's even more interesting (and smart) about this case is that he has a female attorney speaking on his behalf. Rape (especially in this case---which is he says she says) will be very difficult to prove. If she's not a virgin she can almost hang it up.
p.s.
Gina where did you see the pic (give website etc.)?

CrimsonTide4 · #79 07-19-2003, 11:50 PM

The picture was taken last year.
She is the one on the ground on the right.

miss priss · #80 07-20-2003, 01:16 AM

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Originally posted by CrimsonTide4

The picture was taken last year.
She is the one on the ground on the right.

Thanks CT4!!!! I had been pulling my hair out to find this pic.....

(Vision:watching CT4 fly off into the sunset with her rippling red cape..and me saying thanks CT4 I'll never forget you!!)

Honeykiss1974 · #81 07-20-2003, 11:02 AM

How old is Kobe's accuser, again?

That girl looks all of 15 years old!

Steeltrap · #82 07-20-2003, 11:25 AM

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Originally posted by Honeykiss1974
How old is Kobe's accuser, again? That girl looks all of 15 years old!

She's 19. I have to think that's an old picture of her.

1913CrimsonQT · #83 07-20-2003, 03:15 PM

No one is safe on the net!!

http://geocities.com/Kobewatch

Court Documents http://www.thesmokinggun.com/doc_o_day/doc_o_day.html

Page 5 of this court document does give the address of the vitctim which is the same address listed on that angelfire website.
http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/b...rd71403cmp.pdf

Now how did the European newspaper get the child's name?
http://www.eurweb.com/articles/headl...0507172003.cfm

CrimsonTide4 · #84 07-20-2003, 03:21 PM

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Originally posted by 1913CrimsonQT
No one is safe on the net!!

http://geocities.com/Kobewatch

Court Documents http://www.thesmokinggun.com/doc_o_day/doc_o_day.html

Page 5 of this court document does give the address of the vitctim which is the same address listed on that angelfire website.
http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/b...rd71403cmp.pdf

Now how did the European newspaper get the child's name?
http://www.eurweb.com/articles/headl...0507172003.cfm

**SMH**

EDITED TO ADD:

EURWEB is not a European publication. It is an American based urban entertainment site mainly for Blacks.

Wonderful1908 · #85 07-20-2003, 04:42 PM

Tsk Tsk Tsk, as a woman its sad either, she has been violated or she is using the most sacred thing a woman has to victimize him. Its just sad period.

Sugar_N_Spice · #86 07-20-2003, 05:29 PM

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Originally posted by Wonderful1908
Tsk Tsk Tsk, as a woman its sad either, she has been violated or she is using the most sacred thing a woman has to victimize him. Its just sad period.

Exactly...

But on another note,

to how her identity was found out and is plastered ALL OVER the internet...But, as she is an adult, she has no right to her i.d. being hidden anyway...

RedefinedDiva · #87 07-20-2003, 06:03 PM

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Originally posted by 1913CrimsonQT
No one is safe on the net!!

http://geocities.com/Kobewatch

Court Documents http://www.thesmokinggun.com/doc_o_day/doc_o_day.html

Page 5 of this court document does give the address of the vitctim which is the same address listed on that angelfire website.
http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/b...rd71403cmp.pdf

Now how did the European newspaper get the child's name?
http://www.eurweb.com/articles/headl...0507172003.cfm

Actually to be honest, all of her info is public records. Once a case if filed and it goes on record, anyone can go in and request a copy. I do say that the first wesite that you posted was done maliciously by someone. They boldly printed her name, address, and phone number, as well as pictures. There are also links to other sites about her. It's just horrible.

CrimsonTide4 · #88 07-21-2003, 09:01 AM

http://www.freekobe.com/

1913CrimsonQT · #89 07-21-2003, 09:07 AM

This is the real picture of Kobe's accuser. The blonde in the blue. This is the picture that was shown on CNN with her face blurred out.

I had a feeling that other picture was not her for the simple fact that it was a picture on the website high school website for 2002-2003 (unless the school website did not update the picture for the 2002-2003 term). The accuser graduated in 2002. Also, she is said to be a cheerleader, and that picture on the website is listed as dance team.

mccoyred · #90 07-21-2003, 05:48 PM

Where is Johnny Cochran when you need him, 'cause this is definitely the next "OJ" case!