Cut from all Chapters at UGA

[gee_ess]

Originally Posted by Titchou

I certainly didn't mean it to come across that way. From her own admission, her involvement/activities are not strong and she simply chit-chatted at the parties. Her recs and grades obviously got her invited back after round 1 but she did nothing to sell herself after that - would could have made a difference. By her own admission she freaked out at every house. I went to Alabama so I know competitive recruitment - you have to have the resume to get in the door and then you have to sell yourself in order to stand out against all the hundreds of others. That would have given her a much better chance.

You have made a good point, but since you are one of us who truly knows the difficulty of SEC recruitment, I think it must also be noted that it isn't always as simple as " you didn't sell yourself". Sometimes you simply get overlooked or your conversations, while perfectly fine, were not enough.

[Hartofsec]

Originally Posted by Titchou

I certainly didn't mean it to come across that way. From her own admission, her involvement/activities are not strong and she simply chit-chatted at the parties. Her recs and grades obviously got her invited back after round 1 but she did nothing to sell herself after that - would could have made a difference. By her own admission she freaked out at every house. I went to Alabama so I know competitive recruitment - you have to have the resume to get in the door and then you have to sell yourself in order to stand out against all the hundreds of others. That would have given her a much better chance.

And as you also know, many girls are released from recruitment at Alabama, who then go on to pledge sororities that are recolonizing on a campus, like Delta Gamma at Alabama.

If there must be some identifiable (negative) reason that a PNM is released from recruitment (as you have indicated), then why did your recolonizing chapter pledge them?

Originally Posted by Titchou

So, recs - check; grades - check; poise, personality, presentation, reputation -?; activities - ?

Surely ^this is not how you queried the girls who were released from recruitment, who subsequently pledged Delta Gamma following formal recruitment. Your chapter benefited from girls like SECglitter, who were released from rush, but who still wanted to be part of the Greek system.

I think that there are plenty of terrific girls who wind up being released -- many who do nothing specific, or negative, to cause their own release.

I thought GeorgiaGreek offered some great advice -- all the best to SECglitter.

[WhiteDaisy128]

Originally Posted by Hartofsec

And as you also know, many girls are released from recruitment at Alabama, who then go on to pledge sororities that are recolonizing on a campus, like Delta Gamma at Alabama.

If there must be some identifiable (negative) reason that a PNM is released from recruitment (as you have indicated), then why did your recolonizing chapter pledge them?



Surely ^this is not how you queried the girls who were released from recruitment, who subsequently pledged Delta Gamma following formal recruitment. Your chapter benefited from girls like SECglitter, who were released from rush, but who still wanted to be part of the Greek system.

I think that there are plenty of terrific girls who wind up being released -- many who do nothing specific, or negative, to cause their own release.

I thought GeorgiaGreek offered some great advice -- all the best to SECglitter.

Seriously? Are you still stalking Titchou from that other thread?

Nothing to do with SECglitter here, but just for the record, I was part of a colonizing chapter (of DG ironically enough) and over 90% of our pledge class did NOT go through formal recruitment. Of the 10% or so that did, it was pretty split between the girls being released and the girls removing themselves from the process.

Colonies are not just the "left overs" from recruitment -- though, for PNMs that slip through the cracks during formal recruitment, they can be a great way to step into the Greek system.

[Hartofsec]

Originally Posted by WhiteDaisy128

Seriously? Are you still stalking Titchou from that other thread?

Nothing to do with SECglitter here, but just for the record, I was part of a colonizing chapter (of DG ironically enough) and over 90% of our pledge class did NOT go through formal recruitment. Of the 10% or so that did, it was pretty split between the girls being released and the girls removing themselves from the process.

Colonies are not just the "left overs" from recruitment -- though, for PNMs that slip through the cracks during formal recruitment, they can be a great way to step into the Greek system.

I assume you were not at Alabama -- and I also assume that when your colony formed it was represented by members of all classes (not just freshmen or sophmores who went through formal recruitment that year).

Please note that I had something positive to say about girls released from recruitment -- I was not passing judgement regarding why they were released.

And yes, at Alabama, girls who are released from recruitment can be very important to the launch of a chapter new to campus (especially freshmen). They are interested in joining a sorority, obviously, as otherwise they would not have participated in recruitment.

[pbear19]

Funny. Most threads like this are filled with women explaining to the OP that we can't tell her why she was released. In this thread, the OP specifically said that she knows we can't tell her that, and she's not asking. Yet the thread is filled with women explaining to the OP why she might have been released.

[Hartofsec]

Originally Posted by pbear19

Funny. Most threads like this are filled with women explaining to the OP that we can't tell her why she was released. In this thread, the OP specifically said that she knows we can't tell her that, and she's not asking. Yet the thread is filled with women explaining to the OP why she might have been released.

lol -- great observation.

[WhiteDaisy128]

Originally Posted by Hartofsec

I assume you were not at Alabama -- and I also assume that when your colony formed it was represented by members of all classes (not just freshmen or sophmores who went through formal recruitment that year).

Please note that I had something positive to say about girls released from recruitment -- I was not passing judgement regarding why they were released.

And yes, at Alabama, girls who are released from recruitment can be very important to the launch of a chapter new to campus (especially freshmen). They are interested in joining a sorority, obviously, as otherwise they would not have participated in recruitment.

Yes, I was not at Alabama. Yes, my colonizing class was made up of women from all classes. Was the Alabama chapter that just colonized just made up of freshmen?

I know you had positive things to say about the women being released. My beef was that you swoop in this thread and immediately start taking jabs at Titchou as if to continue the tiff in a thread that has been closed. Why in the world was the DG colonization at Alabama brought up in this thread?

[Hartofsec]

Originally Posted by WhiteDaisy128

Yes, I was not at Alabama. Yes, my colonizing class was made up of women from all classes. Was the Alabama chapter that just colonized just made up of freshmen?

Of course not. Fewer sophmores than freshmen participate in formal recruitment, and far fewer junior and seniors participate. What percent of freshmen in your colonizing class participated in formal recruitment? It is also possible that some percentage of the upperclassmen participated in formal recruitment years prior. Did you?

Nonetheless, PNMs like SECglitter, who want an opportunity to join the Greek system, can benefit a chapter new to campus. A win-win.

Originally Posted by WhiteDaisy128

I know you had positive things to say about the women being released. My beef was that you swoop in this thread and immediately start taking jabs at Titchou as if to continue the tiff in a thread that has been closed. Why in the world was the DG colonization at Alabama brought up in this thread?

Because while Titchou was telling SECglitter why she was released, I couldn't ignore the irony that Titchou's own chapter benefited from released PNMs, like SECglitter, when recolonizing at Alabama.

Hopefully they were not similarly interrogated regarding their release, however.

[gee_ess]

Originally Posted by pbear19

Funny. Most threads like this are filled with women explaining to the OP that we can't tell her why she was released. In this thread, the OP specifically said that she knows we can't tell her that, and she's not asking. Yet the thread is filled with women explaining to the OP why she might have been released.

I was thinking this exact thing!

And, I know nothing of the tiff mentioned above, but I thought HartofSEC made a good point that we mustn't write off the OP as an unimpressive pnm simply because she was released. And on campuses with new colonies, released pnms make up a part of their new member pool and those new members might have been pnms who were overlooked.

[SECglitter]

Hmm...I wish a new chapter were colonizing here at UGA. I know Ole Miss Panhellenic is thinking about expanding, and an AGD chapter is coming to South Carolina but because I am on the HOPE and Zel Miller scholarship, my parents won't let me transfer out of state. I almost wish I had kept my high school GPA under 3.7 just so parents would let me transfer! LOL

[Hartofsec]

Originally Posted by gee_ess

I was thinking this exact thing!

And, I know nothing of the tiff mentioned above, but I thought HartofSEC made a good point that we mustn't write off the OP as an unimpressive pnm simply because she was released. And on campuses with new colonies, released pnms make up a part of their new member pool and those new members might have been pnms who were overlooked.

Something else to consider -- not every person is chatty and super outgoing in new situations -- and there are few situations more chaotic and small-talk-dependent than recruitment. The whirlwind of recruitment may not favor the quiet personality. Even among actives one could sort personalities along the lines of super rushers and those who are more comfortable in the background. Most of us have close friends of both leanings, I'm sure, in real life (recruitment certainly is not real life, so to speak).

A PNM can also be unlucky in regard to the actives they chat with -- an apathetic active snoozing in the chapter room may not be speaking up as someone who met the PNM.

[LatinaAlumna]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaGreek

Other options to consider are non-Panhellenic sororities like Gamma Sigma Sigma (service sorority) and Sigma Alpha Omega (Christian sorority). I know girls in both, and they are awesome organizations with awesome people, as are the multicultural sororities, if you think any of these fit your style.

I know you are trying to be helpful to OP, but MCGLOs should not be considered as an alternative for someone who was released from NPC recruitment. If OP was interested in pursuing a MCGLO, she would have taken those steps instead of signing up for NPC recruitment.

[Hartofsec]

Originally Posted by SECglitter

Hmm...I wish a new chapter were colonizing here at UGA. I know Ole Miss Panhellenic is thinking about expanding, and an AGD chapter is coming to South Carolina but because I am on the HOPE and Zel Miller scholarship, my parents won't let me transfer out of state. I almost wish I had kept my high school GPA under 3.7 just so parents would let me transfer! LOL

(hugs) You can make your mark on campus -- GeorgiaGreek really had some specific suggestions to help you get started. Sometimes when a disappointment presents as an obstacle, a new path opens that you will (eventually) be thankful you traveled.

You have good grades -- keep it up -- interview for honor societies, and even campus positions/organizations that seem a reach. You will not make everything, but every time you interview you will have more experience to draw upon (and you can try again). Involvement begets involvement. And one day when you are interviewing for a competitive graduate admission or a job (high-stakes situations where the rubber really meets the road), you will have a great story of disappointment and resilience to tell and write about. Your disappointment now -- and how you find your campus land legs moving forward -- may be what sets you apart in the future.

There are so many adventures and people to meet ahead -- remember that most people on campus are not Greek. Pour yourself into campus involvement, and decide later if you want to try again.

Go get 'em!

[GeorgiaGreek]

Originally Posted by LatinaAlumna

If OP was interested in pursuing a MCGLO, she would have taken those steps instead of signing up for NPC recruitment.

Or she might not have known about them? I personally know of two people who dropped from an NPC sorority and ended up in a MCGLO at UGA. It was a better fit for them, and in the case of at least one, she didn't know the second organization existed until after joining the first. Yes, dropping is sad, but I'm glad they found another home rather than just a bitter taste.
Maybe the organization you belong to looks at this differently, but there are certainly multicultural sororities at UGA that would accept someone who has been through NPC recruitment and even pledged an NPC house in the past.

Given the typical demographics of UGA, odds are this isn't even relevant, but I have no idea who the OP is or what her background is, so maybe it is an option she could pursue.

[SECglitter]

Hardofsec thank you for the kind words What is an MCGLO? Are those the black sororities? Because I'm not black.....lol (Not being racist) but I'm caucasian