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07-06-2011, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by agzg
If you have an issue, put her on ignore. Then you never have to see her novels. Which are typically always interesting and while I might not agree with them 100% there's something I can find that makes me go "huh."
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Your cashier's check is in the mail. Unless you do direct deposit.
<----agzg just wants my money  just like knight_shadow and urrrrrybody else does....
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07-06-2011, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by BetteDavisEyes
One of my friends just posted on her status that as a tribute & remembrance of Caylee, we should all turn on our porch lights at 9pm.
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You mean, about when it gets dark enough to turn on porch lights? Like, the time many automatic lights go on, and people flip them on because they're waiting for someone to get home?
That's not a memorial, that's slacktivism at its finest.
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iLost. #wrongthread
I just want to see that little girl's death vindicated. I pray that there is an appeal and/or the investigation continues.
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I don't really think one's death can be 'vindicated.' She was murdered. There's no vindication, not even in finding, convicting and possibly killing the murderer. Nothing 'helps' the victim here in any way unless one has a moral system that only results in heaven for those whose murderers are convicted.
And again we're back to, why do we care about THIS child, and not the other (statistically) three who were murdered on the same date?
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Originally Posted by violetpretty
Even though Casey Anthony slipped through the cracks, I'm glad I live in a country where a person is innocent until proven guilty. Except if you live in West Memphis, Arkansas.
Innocent people do not lie to police. Accidents are not made to look like murders. Unfortunately, common sense is not proof of guilt in a court of law.
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Innocent people lie to the police all the time. Particularly if you're only referring to the crime being investigated at the time. They might be guilty of gods know what else, or be hiding something embarrassing that isn't a crime at all.
@DrPhil, I'm actually more interested in how it can be changed, or how it should be changed. I think that the 'why' we only see young, pretty, well off, dramatic/sideshowy missing white girls or *gasp* white girls who are murderers while in a foreign country or the like has been pretty well established to anyone who bothers to educate themselves. I'm not so sure on what can be DONE about it, though. Which cases need media attention to help solve them and which don't? And how do we as the viewing public make changes?
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07-06-2011, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by DrPhil
Your cashier's check is in the mail. Unless you do direct deposit.
<----agzg just wants my money  just like knight_shadow and urrrrrybody else does....
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This would be funny if someone hadn't written $30,000 in fraudulent bill pay checks on my joint account last week.
I need money to pay my legal fees for that shitstorm.
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07-06-2011, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Munchkin03
I see class issues, but I don't see it as class privilege. Gender and race privilege, however, are all over the place here. It's easier for a jury to look down on a poor or working-class (as I always assumed Casey Anthony to be) than it is a middle class or reasonably wealthy woman. If anything, her class background may have hurt her case...? I guess it's a moo point.
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The impact of these factors can't be measured so they can also have a buffering effect.
Being less than middle class, and depicted as a loose party woman at that, can make her appear more of a potential killer; or, it can make her even more of a victim when it intersects with her history of sexual abuse. Those can both weigh on people's thoughts as they are deciding whether she is guilty or fully accountable for WHATEVER happened to Caylee.
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07-06-2011, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by agzg
This would be funny if someone hadn't written $30,000 in fraudulent bill pay checks on my joint account last week.
I need money to pay my legal fees for that shitstorm.
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I thought about that after I typed it.  Sorry.
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07-06-2011, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by DrPhil
Uh...dumb bitch really needs to learn how to read if she's going to be up my ass and pretend that she has read my every post over the years.
I typically don't call people racist, classist, or sexist. I can't recall ever doing that because it is a rarity. I don't give a shit about people. I examine constructs and overarching dynamics that exist above and beyond what people are thinking and saying/doing. That's what I give a shit about. If katydumbass is going to give a shit about me, she needs to be smarter about it.
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Did I say that you call people racist/sexist/classist or did i say you go on a rampage when they phrase something racist/sexist/classist. Learn how to read.
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07-06-2011, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by DrPhil
I thought about that after I typed it.  Sorry.
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Now that you feel internet-bad it's funny.
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07-06-2011, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by DrPhil
The impact of these factors can't be measured so they can also have a buffering effect.
Being less than middle class, and depicted as a loose party woman at that, can make her appear more of a potential killer; or, it can make her even more of a victim when it intersects with her history of sexual abuse. Those can both weigh on people's thoughts as they are deciding whether she is guilty or fully accountable for WHATEVER happened to Caylee.
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Alleged sexual abuse*
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07-06-2011, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by katydidKD
At some point in this discussion, someone is going to phrase something in a way that is racist/sexist/classist by DrPhil's standards and DrPhil will write a novel condemning them. Thats whats missing here i think.
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Yes, you did say that she would call people racist. Unless there's a way to condemn someone for being racist without calling them racist that I've yet to hear about. Is that something they teach you in willfully ignorant school?
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07-06-2011, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by katydidKD
Did I say that you call people racist/sexist/classist or did i say you go on a rampage when they phrase something racist/sexist/classist. Learn how to read.
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Is this going to be your signature style? Rolling your eyes at other posters and their styles because you're above it?
/i'm only here because my name was typed in this thread
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07-06-2011, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by agzg
Yes, you did say that she would call people racist. Unless there's a way to condemn someone for being racist without calling them racist that I've yet to hear about. Is that something they teach you in willfully ignorant school?
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Yes.
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07-06-2011, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Drolefille
And again we're back to, why do we care about THIS child, and not the other (statistically) three who were murdered on the same date?
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While I agree that race/class issues play a part in all of this, there is a simpler explanation: there was a suspect, with a clear motive, on trial. It was not a perfect case, so there was a lot of suspense involved. She had a chance of being caught. Those three other children? Who knows if there was even a suspect. Or conversely, it was a cut-and-dry conviction with no drama. This was interesting to the public because there was a 50-50 chance of someone going to jail for this little girl's murder. Only 50-50, no more, no less. (OK not technically if you get into the statistical analysis, but the simplified version is that there were 2 possible outcomes- conviction or acquittal.)
Will any kind of investigation continue? While I personally believe Casey is veryyy guilty, I can see how there was not enough evidence to convict her. And while she cannot be tried again, will there be any investigation to absolutely rule out other suspects? If Casey is innocent (actually innocent, not just "not guilty") then someone who killed this child is walking free. How does the justice system handle that?
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07-06-2011, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by knight_shadow
Is this going to be your signature style? Rolling your eyes at other posters and their styles because you're above it?
/i'm only here because my name was typed in this thread
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You set yourself up on Google Alerts, didn't you?
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07-06-2011, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by katydidKD
Did I say that you call people racist/sexist/classist or did i say you go on a rampage when they phrase something racist/sexist/classist.
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Again, you're too stupid to understand my posts and need to stop reading them.
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Learn how to read.
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This is funny.
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07-06-2011, 10:28 AM
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You set yourself up on Google Alerts, didn't you?
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No. I am not particularly interested in this case, so I will glance at this thread every once in a while. I was scrolling and saw an underscore, so that made me take notice lol
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