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08-08-2010, 09:33 PM
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That's a personal preference. We all have preferences that differ from those of others.
As for SEC recruitment outfit advice, I understand that people are watching what the young ladies are wearing because that's part of the first impression. I agree with 33girl about letting shoes breathe when you're walking and standing a lot. I just hope someone wouldn't be judged if they chose not to let their shoes breathe, as long as her feet and shoes don't stink.
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I'm sure we all hope PNM's are never judged by their outward appearance, but it isn't helpful to act as though that can't or won't happen. It might.
In this case an easy solution would be to run to Target or TJMaxx and find a $15 pair of shoes to wear in between. Presto, cheap solution.
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08-08-2010, 09:38 PM
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I'm sure we all hope PNM's are never judged by their outward appearance, but it isn't helpful to act as though that can't or won't happen. It might.
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Reading all of these recruitment outfit threads made me conclude that we don't all hope PNMs are never judged by their outward appearance.
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08-08-2010, 09:44 PM
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Reading all of these recruitment outfit threads made me conclude that we don't all hope PNMs are never judged by their outward appearance.
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Okkk...well you hope they aren't and I hope they aren't. But personally I'd rather them be prepared in case they are.
And though it's not likely that little things like shoes matter (at least in most normal scenarios) in the "real world", how you look DOES MATTER and people ARE judged by their appearances.
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08-08-2010, 09:58 PM
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Both. Y'all can roll your eyes all you want, but anyone who thinks this would go unnoticed isn't being truthful with themselves. Whether it would matter or not surely depends on the group. I seriously doubt on my campus (very laid back recruitment and not competitive) it would matter. But on more competitive campuses, it might.
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No one on my campus would have noticed the shoes unless they were bright red, or gold hooker heels or something that stood out. I don't think that is about how competitive the campus is, but about how image focused the recruitment is.
And I don't want to hide "image-focused" behind "competitive."
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08-08-2010, 10:03 PM
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No one on my campus would have noticed the shoes unless they were bright red, or gold hooker heels or something that stood out. I don't think that is about how competitive the campus is, but about how image focused the recruitment is.
And I don't want to hide "image-focused" behind "competitive."
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Regardless of semantics, there are some places where that will matter. It doesn't matter whether or not it's shallow, it's still a possibility. (And "image-focused" can be part of "competitive". )
I guess I don't see what the big deal is when it's easy to avoid the possibility of shoes being an issue. No one would tell her to wear the same polo two days in a row. Same thing. Just wear something different. No big.
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08-08-2010, 10:15 PM
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Regardless of semantics, there are some places where that will matter. It doesn't matter whether or not it's shallow, it's still a possibility. (And "image-focused" can be part of "competitive". )
I guess I don't see what the big deal is when it's easy to avoid the possibility of shoes being an issue. No one would tell her to wear the same polo two days in a row. Same thing. Just wear something different. No big.
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Of course it's possible, but the shallow part - i was being nice - is independent of the competitive part.
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I guess I don't see what the big deal is when it's easy to avoid the possibility of shoes being an issue. No one would tell her to wear the same polo two days in a row. Same thing. Just wear something different. No big.
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You assume that everyone compares wearing the same shoes to wearing the same shirt.  As I said, that's a personal preference that not everyone shares.
Overall, I understand what you mean in your posts because this is an SEC recruitment for which many of the actives are making their "competitive" recruitment an "image-based" one. None of us can change that from the outside looking in.
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08-08-2010, 10:27 PM
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You assume that everyone compares wearing the same shoes to wearing the same shirt.  As I said, that's a personal preference that not everyone shares.
Overall, I understand what you mean in your posts because this is an SEC recruitment for which many of the actives are making their "competitive" recruitment an "image-based" one. None of us can change that from the outside looking in.
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What I mean in my posts is that on some campuses, appearance matters. Whether it's shallow or not isn't the question, and I do not think it is helpful to PNMs to act as though this never happens.
Especially when it's down to shoes. Change shoes. Damn.
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08-08-2010, 10:33 PM
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What I mean in my posts is that on some campuses, appearance matters. Whether it's shallow or not isn't the question, and I do not think it is helpful to PNMs to act as though this never happens.
Especially when it's down to shoes. Change shoes. Damn.
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Relax?
I mean it's just as easy for us to say "Shoes aren't the important thing. Damn."
And, "Whether it happens or not it's still shallow."
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08-08-2010, 10:34 PM
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Especially when it's down to shoes. Change shoes. Damn.
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I have to say it is funny to reduce the shoes sidebar to simplistically inconsequential frivolity when even the very nature of recruitment outfit discussions is considered simplistically inconsequential frivolity by some.
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08-08-2010, 10:55 PM
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There's a line somewhere between "What sorts of things should I wear" to "Here's my entire outfit, tell me what's right and wrong even though you don't know me, my preferences or my body type." The same line is between "Flip flops are bad." and "Don't wear Hollister, wear RL."
Somewhere we crossed it.
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08-08-2010, 10:59 PM
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I must suck because I totally wear the same shoes two days in a row.
If they're not gross and my feet or shoes don't smell, I don't see a problem with it. Of course, this is how I end up trashing shoes and have to replace them rather quickly.
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08-08-2010, 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Drolefille
There's a line somewhere between "What sorts of things should I wear" to "Here's my entire outfit, tell me what's right and wrong even though you don't know me, my preferences or my body type." The same line is between "Flip flops are bad." and "Don't wear Hollister, wear RL."
Somewhere we crossed it.
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Completely agree. There are many things a PNM could wear to recruitment that would be appropriate. Many of these threads make it sound like a girl couldn't get a bid at one of these schools without wearing the exact right outfit and shoes, which is preposterous.
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08-08-2010, 11:31 PM
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This is not so much directed at the OP, but a general observation.
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There seems to be A WHOLE lot more discussion of very specific clothing advice this year. (ex: wear THIS top instead of the top you chose).
In previous years, we seemed to get more general "what to wear" questions like "skirt or shorts for philanthropy day?"
Clothing is important, but I just hope that all the PNMs who are focusing on their recruitment wardrobe are also making sure they're prepared in other areas as well.
I"ve seen "what to wear" threads from PNMs at SEC schools who admittedly have no recs.
Again, not saying that clothes are unimportant, but if you don't have recs, and you have not prepared yourself in other ways (resume, conversation skills), you might not end up havng anywhere to wear your super awesome Lily dress you picked out.
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08-08-2010, 11:43 PM
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Thanks for all the advice!
Honestly, when it comes to shoes - I'm going to wear what goes with my dress, is comfortable and doesn't smell (if this means smelling my shoes, so be it). If they happen to be different each day, cool. If they're the same, that works too. I hope my charming personality, shining recs, wonderful dresses and brilliant good looks can stand on their own (no pun intended, and obviously there was some joking in there haha!).
Once again, thanks for the advice - I'll be posting my recruitment story once rush is over, for better or worse. Until then, I'm going to focus on this whole moving in thing  .
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