Indiana State U (Terre Haute): Code of Conduct Revisions (Alcohol, etc.) for 2010-11

[exlurker]

Indiana State U (in Terre Haute) has revised its Code of Conduct for the 2010-11 school year, a local new source reports. Supposedly there are significant changes dealing with underage alcohol consumption / possession, and disruptive behavior, etc. that is fueled by alcohol – on or off campus. Reportedly the Code of Conduct provisions regarding hazing have also been strengthened.

Just thought that ISU chapter advisors, chapter officers, local or regional lawyers on retainer, and concerned alumni/ae would want to be aware so they can delve into the details and the implications for ISU Greeks, if they wish.

See:
http://tribstar.com/news/x1989607278...alcohol-policy

Excerpts:

Trustees on Friday approved a new university alcoholic beverage policy and revised its Code of Student Conduct.

The changes “more specifically address the role of alcohol consumption in student misconduct, including misconduct which may occur outside university property.”

. . . . The university’s new alcoholic beverage policy, approved Friday, states as follows:

• ISU considers underage purchase, possession or consumption of alcohol a violation of the Code of Student Conduct, whether that conduct occurs on or off university owned/controlled property.

• ISU will pursue disciplinary action with students or employees who furnish alcoholic beverages to persons who are under age 21, whether such conduct occurs on or off university owned/controlled property.

• The policy also deals with misuse and abuse of alcoholic beverages. “When dangerous, irresponsible, disruptive or abusive behavior is influenced by inappropriate use of alcoholic beverages, ISU may impose more rigorous student or employee disciplinary measures than those that may normally be associated with such misconduct, regardless of whether the misconduct occurred on or off university owned/controlled property.”

The policy further states that “the university will also pursue disciplinary action against students or employees who are determined to have furnished alcoholic beverages to a person who is known or suspected to be already intoxicated.”

The changes in the Code of Student Conduct will be effective for the 2010-11 academic year. . . .

[AOII Angel]

Interesting. I'm not sure how the University thinks it's going to enforce it's policies off campus, but whatever. There is a bid issue in the country with the change in drinking culture since the change in the drinking age. I fear that this type of behavior will have long term societal effects...I guess we'll find out in time.

[33girl]

Stuff like this is why drug use is sky high.

[Psi U MC Vito]

How so 33?

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

How so 33?

Easier to hide than alcohol. No breath issues. College is so focused on stopping drinking they don't pay attention to the other stuff that's even worse.

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Easier to hide than alcohol. No breath issues. College is so focused on stopping drinking they don't pay attention to the other stuff that's even worse.

Ah ok. I was thinking that this would actually lead to more deaths through alcohol poisoning. People would be less willing to call an ambulance for a friend if they have to worry about say getting expelled.

[AOII Angel]

I have to agree with both of you. I know when the drinking age changed in LA to 21 when I was in school in the late 90s, suddenly there was a huge increase in the use of valium and xanax to potentiate the effects of the little alcohol students could get their hands on. I knew people who even took Rohypnol...on purpose!

I would love to see the stats on the number of college kids that have died from alcohol overdose before and after the drinking age was changed.

[Ghostwriter]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

II would love to see the stats on the number of college kids that have died from alcohol overdose before and after the drinking age was changed.

I am not going to infer from what you have written as to were you stand on the drinking age "controversy" but I for one believe we should really rethink this law. Wouldn't it be better to change it back to 18 for beer and wine but also increase the age for an unrestricted driver's license to 18 as well? Kids can have permits for driving with limited privileges.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Ghostwriter

I am not going to infer from what you have written as to were you stand on the drinking age "controversy" but I for one believe we should really rethink this law. Wouldn't it be better to change it back to 18 for beer and wine but also increase the age for an unrestricted driver's license to 18 as well? Kids can have permits for driving with limited privileges.

Yes it would, but no congressmen have the balls to propose it. The MADD lobby is out of control even though the org itself is a cluster#%ck. There is a group of college presidents trying to do exactly what you mentioned.

http://www.amethystinitiative.org/

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Ghostwriter

I am not going to infer from what you have written as to were you stand on the drinking age "controversy" but I for one believe we should really rethink this law. Wouldn't it be better to change it back to 18 for beer and wine but also increase the age for an unrestricted driver's license to 18 as well? Kids can have permits for driving with limited privileges.

Originally Posted by 33girl

Yes it would, but no congressmen have the balls to propose it. The MADD lobby is out of control even though the org itself is a cluster#%ck. There is a group of college presidents trying to do exactly what you mentioned.

http://www.amethystinitiative.org/

You don't have to infer, I'll tell you outright...I'm for bringing it back down to 18. I don't think you need to change the driving age. I think you need to have very strict consequences for drinking and driving with none of the second chance crap that a lot of these multiple offenders got away with years ago. The problem with drinking and driving wasn't age related, it was cultural and enforcement related.

I agree with 33, though, no one has the balls to go against MADD which is populated with a bunch of teetotalers who can't understand that they are turning future generations into binge drinkers instead of normal social drinkers. We all know the things that go along with this like rape, alcohol poisoning, assault, etc. It doesn't stop when they leave college. I have friends from medical school that still drink like this (including my husband when he gets around his friends, which is luckily not often.) It has become a societal norm for anyone below a certain age...which is SAD!

[ggforever]

So totally agree! It still makes no sense to be allowed to vote, sign (and be held accountable by a court of law) contracts, join the military and die for this country and not be able to drink at 18. For everything but drinking, 18 is the age where you are considered an adult. In the dark ages there was drinking at the fraternity houses for parties. It was frowned upon if anyone got sloppy drunk - men or women. Now, because of MIP (minor in possession) there is always a "pre-party" where the underage students go to get blasted before the event. "Social" drinking seems to no longer exists in colleges.

Anyone caught under the influence (alcohol or drugs) and driving needs to suffer the penalty, no matter what the age.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by ggforever

So totally agree! It still makes no sense to be allowed to vote, sign (and be held accountable by a court of law) contracts, join the military and die for this country and not be able to drink at 18. For everything but drinking, 18 is the age where you are considered an adult. In the dark ages there was drinking at the fraternity houses for parties. It was frowned upon if anyone got sloppy drunk - men or women. Now, because of MIP (minor in possession) there is always a "pre-party" where the underage students go to get blasted before the event. "Social" drinking seems to no longer exists in colleges.

Anyone caught under the influence (alcohol or drugs) and driving needs to suffer the penalty, no matter what the age.

It's like the powers-that-be have no idea that pre-partying exists. Having 18-21 year olds drink socially was so much more safe than the current system. We had the occasional incident, but not to the extent that you see it today.

[Ghostwriter]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

You don't have to infer, I'll tell you outright...I'm for bringing it back down to 18. I don't think you need to change the driving age. I think you need to have very strict consequences for drinking and driving with none of the second chance crap that a lot of these multiple offenders got away with years ago. The problem with drinking and driving wasn't age related, it was cultural and enforcement related.

I agree with 33, though, no one has the balls to go against MADD which is populated with a bunch of teetotalers who can't understand that they are turning future generations into binge drinkers instead of normal social drinkers. We all know the things that go along with this like rape, alcohol poisoning, assault, etc. It doesn't stop when they leave college. I have friends from medical school that still drink like this (including my husband when he gets around his friends, which is luckily not often.) It has become a societal norm for anyone below a certain age...which is SAD!

Ha! The old conservative geezer (me) and the young liberal "whippersnapper" finally agree.

I agree with 33 as well. MADD has really messed things up with unintended consequences. Binge drinking is a real problem. Sort of like what happened with prohibition in the '20's. The things prohibition was supposed to stop became more prevalent. Ditto's the SAD!

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Ghostwriter

Ha! The old conservative geezer (me) and the young liberal "whippersnapper" finally agree.

I agree with 33 as well. MADD has really messed things up with unintended consequences. Binge drinking is a real problem. Sort of like what happened with prohibition in the '20's. The things prohibition was supposed to stop became more prevalent. Ditto's the SAD!

Ha, ha! You know, my parents and I find we agree on more things than we realize when we actually get down to the meat of the matter. Most of the things we disagree on are the means to the end.

BTW, anyone calling me a "young" liberal is pretty funny! I'm 34!

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

I'm 34!

We're still youngbucks compared to some of the frequent posters, but I only defer to those who are my parents' ages, 65-71 years old.