Is this pissed off doctor turning patients away?

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

CG, the question is still on the table. This is a medical professional who has to treat you. He spoke out against the bill although he claims he has no real working knowledge of it (surprise there as most docs have NO idea how insurance really works) but you have to see him to have a condition treated.

Would you still go or seek treatment elsewhere?

Would you be concerned at the level of care he gives, knowing this?

My vote should never be a prerequisite for my medical treatment.

I would seek treatment somewhere else.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

I know that. My post was just about what I highlighted in bold. I think Obama being in office is a mistake. That's all I'm saying. That sign was dumb and, it really isn't any of his business who voted and who didn't vote for Obama. I think anyone who goes to see a Dr. like that is dumb for letting him give them treatment.

I didn't type that to "school" you. You don't think anyone should be turned away and that doctor is allegedly not really turning anyone away.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

I would seek treatment somewhere else.

And there is the problem. A patient should never have to seek another doctor because of this example.

If more doctors start drawing political lines as to who they will treat, just IMO only, they are violating many ethical rules that they themselves created in order to treat ALL who need to be treated.

To me, doctors don't really have the 'right' to turn away anyone due to a discriminatory preference and that is what I see here and scarily enough, this isn't the end of this.

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I didn't type that to "school" you. You don't think anyone should be turned away and that doctor is allegedly not really turning anyone away.

I know you weren't, DrPhil. I see what you're saying, it's just that to post a sign on the door like that is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Who would want to be seen by a Dr. like that anyway?

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

I know you weren't, DrPhil. I see what you're saying, it's just that to post a sign on the door like that is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Who would want to be seen by a Dr. like that anyway?

You will be surprised.

Question for you: have you told any of your clients that you aren't feeling Obama? If you did, would it bother you if they took their pets elsewhere for medical care?

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

And there is the problem. A patient should never have to seek another doctor because of this example.

If more doctors start drawing political lines as to who they will treat, just IMO only, they are violating many ethical rules that they themselves created in order to treat ALL who need to be treated.

To me, doctors don't really have the 'right' to turn away anyone due to a discriminatory preference and that is what I see here and scarily enough, this isn't the end of this.

I couldn't agree with you more. I was just agreeing with him when he said it was a mistake voting Obama as POTUS.

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

You will be surprised.

Question for you: have you told any of your clients that you aren't feeling Obama? If you did, would it bother you if they took their pets elsewhere for medical care?

I don't talk politics with my clients. I don't tell them any of my personal business.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

I know you weren't, DrPhil. I see what you're saying, it's just that to post a sign on the door like that is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Who would want to be seen by a Dr. like that anyway?

We don't know what that doctor's like. We see his media antics.

The problem, as I see it, is that the Internet and the media disseminate information about stupid people more and more everyday. Years ago, stupid people were only detected by those in their immediate audience. I think media and Internet-driven societies such as America no longer know what "news" is.

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

We don't know what that doctor's like. We see his media antics.

The problem, as I see it, is that the Internet and the media disseminate information about stupid people more and more everyday. Years ago, stupid people were only detected by those in their immediate audience. I think media and Internet-driven societies such as America no longer know what "news" is.

omg, this is SO true. I get clients all the time challenging me about their pets based on erroneous information that they get on the internet, and it's so frustrating.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

And there is the problem. A patient should never have to seek another doctor because of this example.

If more doctors start drawing political lines as to who they will treat, just IMO only, they are violating many ethical rules that they themselves created in order to treat ALL who need to be treated.

To me, doctors don't really have the 'right' to turn away anyone due to a discriminatory preference and that is what I see here and scarily enough, this isn't the end of this.

Gee, this has been happening for years to those of us with vaginas and ovaries. Funny how when it's happening to people with penii it's OMG BAD DOCTOR WHERE IS HIS OATH???

[DaemonSeid]

^^^^ HAAAAA!!!!!!!!

This whole story just pisses me off.

[Psi U MC Vito]

It seems to me to just be another politically unaware opposing the health care bill because it was pushed by the Democrats.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Gee, this has been happening for years to those of us with vaginas and ovaries. Funny how when it's happening to people with penii it's OMG BAD DOCTOR WHERE IS HIS OATH???

I found your comment funny...

It's liken to the viagra comments...

[epchick]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Who would want to be seen by a Dr. like that anyway?

If he provides good medical care, why wouldn't you want to be seen by a Dr. like that?

My Gastroenterologist has signs up in different areas of his office about the new healthcare reform. Whether he supports it or not, I don't really care. If he was to put up a sign like that tomorrow, i'd still go to him. I don't have to have the same political beliefs as him, just like I don't have to have the same religious beliefs as my doctor(s).





And I know doctors should be more aware of the contents of the healthcare reform bill, since it does affect their business. But doctors are people too, and they can be misinformed as well. Doctors don't know everything.

Originally Posted by 33girl

Gee, this has been happening for years to those of us with vaginas and ovaries. Funny how when it's happening to people with penii it's OMG BAD DOCTOR WHERE IS HIS OATH???

Yep.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

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(WOFL FOX 35) - A note on a Mount Dora doctor's office front door reads: "If you voted for Obama, seek urologic care elsewhere."

"If he's still an Obama supporter and he feels that his care is going to be impacted, I can't stop that. But that's not my intent," said Dr. Jack Cassell.


Cassell, 56, says he's not turning away patients or denying anyone care. Still, he won't be disappointed if Obama supporters are turned away after reading the sign and he doesn't hide his disdain for the newly passed health care reform legislation.

"I want them to understand that this doctor is so against what has happened, as every American should be at this point," adds Cassell.


The urologist, who keeps Republican materials in the waiting room, said he is not attempting to change his patient population, but wants to educate them.

"The people, who voted for Obama, are ultimately responsible for this to have happened, and they have to understand that they made a mistake," said Cassell.

Experts say Cassell is toeing a thin line between right and wrong. The physician has been practicing medicine in Lake County for 22 years. His wife, Leslie Campione , is running for Lake County Commission seat, District 4.

"You have two things to consider here," said Aaron Liberman, Chairman of the Department of Health Management at the University of Central Florida. "One is the free speech rights of every American to make a statement such as that, and secondly, you have the question of the doctor's judgment in making a statement like that."

This case is of a board certified (?) physician who is superfunded thru insurance company perks, like golf games, etc to pimp out & slang his activities...

I'd be careful if I was him because these State med boards ain't fuggin' around, they're going over med practices with a fine tooth comb--i.e. did you see patient X for 10 seconds... Then the IRS comes after you...

The BUSINESS of healthcare is fundamentally changing. No longer will some people get rich off of other people's sickness, suffering and misery. They can go to Costa Rica for that. See the medical tourism for that... LOL...and good luck...

At any rate, I don't know what this will forebode for us, but I did read the entire bill last summer and all I got was grief because I knew healthcare must change. Sorry if you all don't think so, but after incurring unbelievable amounts of debt due to a medical incident for piss poor care, well...Whatever. That's my experience...