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Old 12-22-2009, 04:00 PM
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Actually, Biaxin when combined with certain antihstamines can be deadly. Right after it was first introduced, I was on a six-month antibiotic therapy (Biaxin) to kill a staph infection. I was told under no certain terms to take an antihistamine without the approval of my doctor. I had been taking Hisminal, and she told me that combining the two would likely put me into cardiac arrest.
It was the Hisminal that was the problem...they took it off the market a long time ago. I personally liked Hisminal a lot! I thought it really worked for my allergic rhinitis Luckily I didn't have any flair ups of my acute cardiac arrest.
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Old 12-22-2009, 04:26 PM
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Actually, I would separate them considering that she would likely have two different physicians prescribing this to her. This makes me wonder if she was abusing prescription drugs.
Well, I was getting at two things:

1 - Hydrocodone isn't legal to be sold by itself, as far as I know - it's always with another medication, generally an analgesic, right? So either it was illegally obtained (jiving with abuse), or it's redundant with the commercial name of the prescribed med.

2 - Whether the person compiling the list knew one contained the other or not, it kind of looks like an attempt to make the list longer - like the author wrote "she had cola, chips, and Pepsi!" Given tabloid credibility and the "what this looks like" factor, this seems relevant.

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Anyway, I know very few physicians that use vicoprofen on a common basis. The only time I ever wrote for it was when a crystal meth addict asked for it during follow up visits in the burn unit after he and two of his buddies blew up their lab three days before Christmas when i was a second year surgery resident. He even knew the dosage that he wanted. Nothing says drug addict like someone who knows an obscure drug's dosage!
Ha - that's absolutely awesome.

I was prescribed Vicoprofen along with a muscle relaxant for a bad pinched nerve in 2001, and even then the pharmacist acted like it was an odd one.
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Old 12-22-2009, 05:16 PM
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If my loved one was 32 when they died and they hadn't been sick, I damn sure would scream for an autopsy. Not only that, what made them them is no longer in that container.
I just meant I don't think it's sketchy for him to object to an autopsy at first, immediately after his wife died. The shock and emotional turmoil at that point makes it hard to think clearly. He has now said that he knows an autopsy must be done and that he does want to know what the cause of death was. But he had to have some time to see things that way.
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Old 12-22-2009, 05:23 PM
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Uh...hydrocodone and vicoprofen are both narcotics. Klonopin and Ativan are both benzos and can cause respiratory depression. Topamax has lots of side effects as does Carbamazapine, which is also a seizure medication. Biaxin and Prednisone would not have been prescribed for the flu, BTW. Anyway, this drug list is not for the faint of heart.
It is possible that this list also includes medications for her husband, not just her. They were removed from the bedroom (or master suite, I'm guessing), which is a shared space.
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Old 12-22-2009, 05:26 PM
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Did this thread really just turn into the set of ER?
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Old 12-22-2009, 05:28 PM
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Well, I was getting at two things:

1 - Hydrocodone isn't legal to be sold by itself, as far as I know - it's always with another medication, generally an analgesic, right? So either it was illegally obtained (jiving with abuse), or it's redundant with the commercial name of the prescribed med.
Triple post!

Anyway, I have had hydrocodone (Vicodin) prescribed to me a few times, and I don't recall ever getting anything with it. I know the last time I got it, from the ER, there were no other drugs given to me. It's perfectly legal and frequently prescribed.
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Old 12-22-2009, 05:41 PM
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Triple post!

Anyway, I have had hydrocodone (Vicodin) prescribed to me a few times, and I don't recall ever getting anything with it. I know the last time I got it, from the ER, there were no other drugs given to me.
Actually, you did. Vicodin is a combo drug--hydrocodone AND acetaminophine together.
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Old 12-22-2009, 05:51 PM
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Actually, you did. Vicodin is a combo drug--hydrocodone AND acetaminophine together.
Oh that's right. Well, I've had hydrocodone specifically prescribed to me, too. Still wasn't given with anything.
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Old 12-22-2009, 05:59 PM
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Well, I was getting at two things:

1 - Hydrocodone isn't legal to be sold by itself, as far as I know - it's always with another medication, generally an analgesic, right? So either it was illegally obtained (jiving with abuse), or it's redundant with the commercial name of the prescribed med.
I've had hydrocodone prescribed just by itself. I'm pretty sure the label just said "hydrocodone" on it. I got it for a back injury thing I had going on (it was a mess, out of alignment, etc...)
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Old 12-22-2009, 08:39 PM
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Well, I was getting at two things:

1 - Hydrocodone isn't legal to be sold by itself, as far as I know - it's always with another medication, generally an analgesic, right? So either it was illegally obtained (jiving with abuse), or it's redundant with the commercial name of the prescribed med.
My dad was prescribed only Hydrocodone after he had his shoulder surgery. I know that for a fact b/c I put myself in charge of giving him his medicine after he refused to take it (it never helped him, the pain wouldn't go away not even in the slightest...supposedly)
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Old 12-22-2009, 08:51 PM
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Well, I was getting at two things:

1 - Hydrocodone isn't legal to be sold by itself, as far as I know - it's always with another medication, generally an analgesic, right? So either it was illegally obtained (jiving with abuse), or it's redundant with the commercial name of the prescribed med.

2 - Whether the person compiling the list knew one contained the other or not, it kind of looks like an attempt to make the list longer - like the author wrote "she had cola, chips, and Pepsi!" Given tabloid credibility and the "what this looks like" factor, this seems relevant.
More likely, since these are really old drugs they are usually filled as generics and are thus labeled as hydrocodone Xmg/ acetominophin Xmg on the label. They probably just stopped after the hydrocodone when reporting the medication. Vicoprofen, I believe, doesn't come as a generic and would be labeled as Vicoprofen.

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Ha - that's absolutely awesome.

I was prescribed Vicoprofen along with a muscle relaxant for a bad pinched nerve in 2001, and even then the pharmacist acted like it was an odd one.
I can see why they would choose to use Vicoprofen, the ibuprofen has anti-inflammatory properties that would be helpful, it's just not a commonly used or commonly known medication. (Another reason why it would be a red flag to have a patient ask for it by name!)

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It is possible that this list also includes medications for her husband, not just her. They were removed from the bedroom (or master suite, I'm guessing), which is a shared space.
Of course, but we all know that having another persons name on a prescription has never stopped people from taking drugs. Anyone remember Anna Nicole? That being said, these medications could ALL belong to her husband and have NOTHING to do with her death, but they sure are suspicious!

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Anyway, I have had hydrocodone (Vicodin) prescribed to me a few times, and I don't recall ever getting anything with it. I know the last time I got it, from the ER, there were no other drugs given to me. It's perfectly legal and frequently prescribed.
You're thinking of Codeine. It's most commonly given to kids because it's hard to regulate the Tylenol dose which can be toxic to the liver. A lot of people claim to be "allergic" to Codeine because it causes nausea as a side effect.
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Old 12-22-2009, 09:06 PM
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CG...nah...not ER...more like House, CSI or for old schoolers, Quincy ME
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Old 12-22-2009, 09:07 PM
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Aaaahhh, yes. Definitely the cast of House running around in here. Thanks DS!
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Old 12-22-2009, 09:08 PM
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I've got hydrocodone in the house now, from a torn ligament in my elbow. It was the only drug prescribed to me by my sports medicine doc, and it very clearly says hydrocodone on the label. He did recommend that I take some OTC ibuprofen, but nothing other than hydrocodone was prescribed. FWIW.

(I have a nice little collection of bottles in the house between past injuries from my husband and I. We don't have kids and I just never get around to throwing away the old drugs. I can only imagine how "suspicious" my list of drugs would be if it were released to the media. Especially if it were released like this, with no dates, no names, no indication of last refill or how full the bottle is, etc.)
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Old 12-22-2009, 09:15 PM
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Wow, this is becoming an entire pharmacology thread.
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