Obama destroys another neighborhood.

[kish2]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_256021.html


Subisidized housing destroys neighborhoods. When I am named Commissioner of the universe I am going to do away with HUD. Why spend billions on housing for people that already destroyed their own neighborhoods?
As soon as the hoodrats move into the neighborhood they destroy the schools and crime always goes up. Then the good people that originally lived in the neighborhood leave. The result is a ghetto.

[Senusret I]

Obama is of peace....always.

[KSig RC]

So it's really a legal imperative to build "affordable housing" in "affluent areas" now? That seems like the most un-American thing possible, doesn't it? Property values (and, thus, apartment rent etc.) should be a market function, and one of the last pure ones left.

Integration is a good thing, clearly, but this doesn't change the underlying problems at all - in fact, it might exacerbate them. Instead of changing the area code distribution, let's work on changing the number of minorities who find themselves in the upper reaches of the wealth curve. I suppose there will be ancillary benefit (presumably better education for those who move into the new housing), but that seems like a LOT of work for very marginal gain. Is this even a "baby step" so to speak? Shouldn't we focus on larger issues?

Besides this - is there any evidence that forced integration like this actually works to positive effect?

[dreamseeker]

Originally Posted by kish2

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_256021.html


Subisidized housing destroys neighborhoods. When I am named Commissioner of the universe I am going to do away with HUD. Why spend billions on housing for people that already destroyed their own neighborhoods?
As soon as the hoodrats move into the neighborhood they destroy the schools and crime always goes up. Then the good people that originally lived in the neighborhood leave. The result is a ghetto.

[baci]

Subsidized housing has ruined many areas where I live. Crime has gone up tremendously and the schools have gone to hell. It hasn't helped anyone in the longterm, IMO.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

So it's really a legal imperative to build "affordable housing" in "affluent areas" now? That seems like the most un-American thing possible, doesn't it? Property values (and, thus, apartment rent etc.) should be a market function, and one of the last pure ones left.

Integration is a good thing, clearly, but this doesn't change the underlying problems at all - in fact, it might exacerbate them. Instead of changing the area code distribution, let's work on changing the number of minorities who find themselves in the upper reaches of the wealth curve. I suppose there will be ancillary benefit (presumably better education for those who move into the new housing), but that seems like a LOT of work for very marginal gain. Is this even a "baby step" so to speak? Shouldn't we focus on larger issues?

Besides this - is there any evidence that forced integration like this actually works to positive effect?

I don't think so. And what's going to stop current residents from leaving and forming new communities? That'll make this entire initiative moot.

I don't like the look of this.

[kish2]

Originally Posted by dreamseeker

Are you going to dispute my post?


PS. Get a job and take care of your kids.

[kish2]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I don't think so. And what's going to stop current residents from leaving and forming new communities? That'll make this entire initiative moot.

I don't like the look of this.

Of course they will leave. Who would want to stay after the schools are destroyed, crime increases and the neighborhood is covered with litter and grafitti?

Even George Jefferson moved to the big apartment in the sky as soon as he got some money.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by kish2

Of course they will leave. Who would want to stay after the schools are destroyed, crime increases and the neighborhood is covered with litter and grafitti?

Even George Jefferson moved to the big apartment in the sky as soon as he got some money.

I sure would hate to see a city destroyed by grafitti. Thank God for school systems like the one you went through.

[kish2]

Originally Posted by baci

Subsidized housing has ruined many areas where I live. Crime has gone up tremendously and the schools have gone to hell. It hasn't helped anyone in the longterm, IMO.

That is the problem. Some of the city schools that used to be good schools, now have 15 full time cops because of all the crime. I can't think of one neighborhood that has been improved and I can name dozens of neighborhoods that have been destroyed by the same people that destroyed their last neighborhoods. To top it off we are spending BILLIONS on these projects.

[kish2]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I sure would hate to see a city destroyed by grafitti. Thank God for school systems like the one you went through.

You probably like grafitti, crime, and lousy schools.

People like you don't care about grafitti because you have no pride.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by kish2

You probably like grafitti, crime, and lousy schools.

People like you don't care about grafitti becuse you have no pride.

If I knew what grafitti was, I might be able to dispute your claim.

I'm not a fan of graffiti, though. Spelling was one of the cornerstones of my "lousy" education.

[lovespink88]

Originally Posted by kish2

You probably like grafitti, crime, and lousy schools.

People like you don't care about grafitti because you have no pride.

Dude.........get a life.

[kish2]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

If I knew what grafitti was, I might be able to dispute your claim.

I'm not a fan of graffiti, though. Spelling was one of the cornerstones of my "lousy" education.

Is that all you have, a spelling error?

If I spelled it correct would that change the facts of the arguement?

Now that you can spell how about taking care of your kids and getting a job?

[kish2]

Originally Posted by lovespink88

Dude.........get a life.

Do you have a problem with the truth?


What is a bigger issue, a group of people destroying schools and neighborhoods or me pointing out that they destroyed the schools?

Do you like living in a ghetto?