Gun toting mom found dead

[AlphaFrog]

I'm not supporting Kevin - I'm pointing out that you are being ridiculous and looking to be offended. It really wasn't even that offensive of a statement, even if it *WAS* you in particular to which he was referring.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

You thought I was from the west coast? Why is that? (And I'm not being combative, I just think that's funny)

We probably would get along in person. I agree.

But the word "you" doesn't have to be used in a racial context in order to be offensive. Because I am a gun owner and carrier, I don't like to be lumped in with those who are so strongly opposed.

As far as finding "you" offensive in this type of context in which Kevin put it, that attitude would probably carry over in a multitude of situations. For example, if someone said, "you people in the South supporting Palin are crazy." Someone who lives in the South and is extremely opposed to Palin would most definitely take offense to that, and that would be completely understandable.

I'll agree people can be fiercely defensive of where they're from (there are a number of threads on GC that prove that fact). And, I think there's some importance to what is attached to the "you people" statement.

As an example, if someone said "You people in the Northeast supporting Palin," I would be a bit offended, as I can't stand Palin

I hope you see my point, though, that (to me) the context of the "you people" is important. In my mind, Kevin's statement isn't all that offensive, if only because my area of New England (both where I grew up and where I went to school) is pretty weird about the gun control issue. For example, you'd get some odd looks in Boston if you said that you were carrying on a random weekday.

As an aside, I don't know if anyone is "determined" to be on the other side of you in a situation. Personally, I don't agree with some of your posts, but I respond mostly because you're willing to debate the issue. That's not me trying to be combative with you or intentionally contrary - it's just me being honest and engaging in debate.

I agree with RC - the three of us would probably have some pretty interesting conversations if we actually met in real life.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

I'm not supporting Kevin - I'm pointing out that you are being ridiculous and looking to be offended. It really wasn't even that offensive of a statement, even if it *WAS* you in particular to which he was referring.

If it *was* me that he was referring to, then yes, the statement is legitimately offensive because I had never posted my feelings on guns. He was making a stupid assumption.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

I'll agree people can be fiercely defensive of where they're from (there are a number of threads on GC that prove that fact). And, I think there's some importance to what is attached to the "you people" statement.

As an example, if someone said "You people in the Northeast supporting Palin," I would be a bit offended, as I can't stand Palin

I hope you see my point, though, that (to me) the context of the "you people" is important. In my mind, Kevin's statement isn't all that offensive, if only because my area of New England (both where I grew up and where I went to school) is pretty weird about the gun control issue. For example, you'd get some odd looks in Boston if you said that you were carrying on a random weekday.

As an aside, I don't know if anyone is "determined" to be on the other side of you in a situation. Personally, I don't agree with some of your posts, but I respond mostly because you're willing to debate the issue. That's not me trying to be combative with you or intentionally contrary - it's just me being honest and engaging in debate.

I agree with RC - the three of us would probably have some pretty interesting conversations if we actually met in real life.

I CAN see your point to a certain extent. I suppose it is relative.

lol at the part about Palin. We have something in common after all.

As for the part about debating with me, despite the fact that there are several people on this forum that I butt heads with, the debating aspect is one thing I love about this forum. I can't engage in the same type of debate on the purse forum.

[DGTess]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Well it didn't protect Melanie from her husband.

This article (and I am not sure if it's the same as originally posted) confirms that Scott did it.

He shot her with his own gun while hers was in a backpack at the front door.

Yeah.

Just goes to show she wasn't carrying it, not that carrying it wouldn't have protected her.

Logic 101.

I thought I had quoted the earlier post; my statement was the "why" one "needs" to carry at a kids' soccer game.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by DGTess

Just goes to show she wasn't carrying it, not that carrying it wouldn't have protected her.

Yep.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

I'll agree people can be fiercely defensive of where they're from (there are a number of threads on GC that prove that fact). And, I think there's some importance to what is attached to the "you people" statement.

As an example, if someone said "You people in the Northeast supporting Palin," I would be a bit offended, as I can't stand Palin

I hope you see my point, though, that (to me) the context of the "you people" is important. In my mind, Kevin's statement isn't all that offensive, if only because my area of New England (both where I grew up and where I went to school) is pretty weird about the gun control issue. For example, you'd get some odd looks in Boston if you said that you were carrying on a random weekday.

As an aside, I don't know if anyone is "determined" to be on the other side of you in a situation. Personally, I don't agree with some of your posts, but I respond mostly because you're willing to debate the issue. That's not me trying to be combative with you or intentionally contrary - it's just me being honest and engaging in debate.

I agree with RC - the three of us would probably have some pretty interesting conversations if we actually met in real life.

I am actually shocked none of you went here in light on the convo...click here and enjoy.