Infractions

[born2bdphie]

[QUOTE=MaggieXi;1834835]

Originally Posted by AXOrushadvisor

In 20 years I have seen tons of infractions. Some stupid stuff and others, well worth the punishment. I personally HATE the business of infractions. If you have to cheat to get new members then go right ahead. QUOTE]


Or what about the PNMs who are dirty rushed and on bid day do not receive a bid and are horribly crushed?

Yeah, I'm kind of wondering about that too.

I'm on the panhellenic council at a school with a small greek system. We just started using NPC formal rush last spring, and we ran into a situation where one chapter was supposedly promising bids to girls, then cutting them before pref, THEN giving them COB bids the day after pref. They knew the girls really wanted them, and that they probably wouldn't pref other houses because they had been promised a bid to ABC, so they were able to get quota, plus an additional 10-12 girls. We heard rumors from the Rho Alphas but really figured it out when they sent us a list of COB's. They had cut every girl on that list right before pref! Basically, because we didn't know how to deal with is nothing happened to the chapter. How is this dealt with at big schools????

[AXOrushadvisor]

[QUOTE=born2bdphie;1834848]

Originally Posted by MaggieXi

Yeah, I'm kind of wondering about that too.

I'm on the panhellenic council at a school with a small greek system. We just started using NPC formal rush last spring, and we ran into a situation where one chapter was supposedly promising bids to girls, then cutting them before pref, THEN giving them COB bids the day after pref. They knew the girls really wanted them, and that they probably wouldn't pref other houses because they had been promised a bid to ABC, so they were able to get quota, plus an additional 10-12 girls. We heard rumors from the Rho Alphas but really figured it out when they sent us a list of COB's. They had cut every girl on that list right before pref! Basically, because we didn't know how to deal with is nothing happened to the chapter. How is this dealt with at big schools????

YIKES! I do think that is horrible for Chapters to promise ANY THING during recruitment. At a big school I think a Chapter would be severely punished for promising bids and dropping women and picking them back up during the COB process- that is not fair to anyone involved. They would go in front of the judicial board. You can not punish by restricting recruitment activities but you can punish a Chapter socially. NO ONE wants to be on social probation by the time recruitment rolls back around.

[AXOrushadvisor]

Originally Posted by StargazerLily

Except for the fact that the cheating chapter walks away with a much bigger new member class than the other chapters....and who gets the short end of the stick? The one who followed the rules of course.

When I say cheating it is more like- singing when they are not supposed to be singing having a skit when it is against the rules- more stuff like that- enhancing their recruitment parties.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by born2bdphie

Yeah, I'm kind of wondering about that too.

I'm on the panhellenic council at a school with a small greek system. We just started using NPC formal rush last spring, and we ran into a situation where one chapter was supposedly promising bids to girls, then cutting them before pref, THEN giving them COB bids the day after pref. They knew the girls really wanted them, and that they probably wouldn't pref other houses because they had been promised a bid to ABC, so they were able to get quota, plus an additional 10-12 girls. We heard rumors from the Rho Alphas but really figured it out when they sent us a list of COB's. They had cut every girl on that list right before pref! Basically, because we didn't know how to deal with is nothing happened to the chapter. How is this dealt with at big schools????

I take it the chapter that did this wasn't at total and the additional 10-12 girls got them there? If this keeps up, make a panhel rule that groups can't open bid a girl they cut from formal rush or something of that nature.

This was obviously a chapter being advised by someone (probably an advisor from another school) who knew how to "work the system." I would let them know that Panhel is on to them and if it continues monetary fines will be forthcoming. That will most likely (if your school is the type of school I think it is) hit them a heck of a lot harder than a relatively unenforceable social probation. Also, if the majority of groups at your school are below total, it should be lowered. Unrealistically high totals are what breed situations like this one.

[littleowl33]

Originally Posted by born2bdphie

We just started using NPC formal rush last spring, and we ran into a situation where one chapter was supposedly promising bids to girls, then cutting them before pref, THEN giving them COB bids the day after pref.

That's really pretty low. That would really tick me off. I get upset when groups cheat the system like this, because it puts groups who follow the rules at a big disadvatage, especially if those groups struggle more in recruitment and the cheaters take away new members from them.

For example, one group on my campus consistently has recruitment infractions. This year, they concealed receipts from Panhel and it came to light after recruitment that they had spent over double the allowed budget. It was very obvious - while most groups do cheap things like painting paper bag puppets, their philanthropy craft was stuffing stuffed animals (their group's mascot) to give to children. Cute craft, but there was no way they could have afforded that, plus all the other stuff at their parties, and they were caught. They also are far above chapter total (by like 40 women) and made quota plus, but offered a few under-the-table bids after recruitment and told the girls not to wear letters or advertise their affiliation until after initiation, at which point it's too late to do anything. There were a few other things, but I won't get into it as it would make the group too obvious.

Another group violated the recruitment t-shirt rules one year, and had to wear their t-shirts inside out all night. That must have been really uncomfortable.

[jennyj87]

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