lil sis rush - Page 3

pirateladybug9 · #31 11-08-2008, 01:30 AM

At my school, it's generally unspoken big/lil sister/brother. I have both a little and big brother, so do other members of my chapter. It is "frowned upon" by our nationals because of the sterotypes that come along with it (for example, when my big's national consultant came, he didn't completly understand how big/little was run at our school, in other chapters, they are just drinking buddies or sex partners).
My big and I became close and he asked me to be his little one day, same goes for my little, he asked me to be his big. My big's big sis is from a totally different chapter than I am. You generally have one big sis/brother from your own chapter and one from a fraternity/sorority, then as many littles as you want/can afford. The chapter never assigns you a specific chapter to be with, let alone your big/little.
Typically, the bigs get the littles a hoodie with the LITTLE's letters on it (you can't wear another chapters letters unless you go through certain ceremonys as detailed in bylaws or ritual) and underneath it will have the big's chapter SPELLED OUT lil' bro/sis. The littles usually make a paddle. I made my big a paddle and letters, same for my little.
I love my big and little, and don't really see how the "tradition" could become so skewed like you guys describe

KSUViolet06 · #32 11-08-2008, 01:37 AM

Ok. Good for you. You bought letters and a paddle for a guy.

Like I said, most NPC sororities discourage these types of relationships/programs, because it has the potential to cause drama within the sorority chapter or devolve into something completely inappropriate. Does it happen 100% of the time? Nope. But it has obviously caused enough issues for sorority HQs to decide that it's not something they'd want their members involved in.

And really, you can be close friends with a guy in a fraternity without having to call him big, buy him letters, etc.

33girl · #33 11-08-2008, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

And really, you can be close friends with a guy in a fraternity without having to call him big, buy him letters, etc.

Exactly. To be blunt, it seems to be the equivalent of spitting on food so no one else will eat it. "OMG HE'S MY BIG BROTHER GET OFF HIM YOU SLUT!"

The other thing I don't get is if it's at a small school where everyone in the Greek system is in each other's pockets anyway. It just seems like a way to create drama.

pirateladybug9 · #34 02-05-2009, 04:15 PM

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Exactly. To be blunt, it seems to be the equivalent of spitting on food so no one else will eat it. "OMG HE'S MY BIG BROTHER GET OFF HIM YOU SLUT!"

Actually its nothing like that at all. My big is really close to alot of members of my chapter and has other littles as well. Also, he's had a few girlfriends throughout the course of our "relationship".

Personally, I don't understand why its such a huge deal to all of you. I don't think you should sit there and knock big bro-lil sis relationships until you have one yourself. Its not about having someone call you a little and be degrading or anything like that.

KSUViolet06 · #35 02-05-2009, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by pirateladybug9

Personally, I don't understand why its such a huge deal to all of you. I don't think you should sit there and knock big bro-lil sis relationships until you have one yourself. Its not about having someone call you a little and be degrading or anything like that.

Holy thread from 4 months ago batman.

If you're in an NPC sorority, you should ask your HQ that question hun. I'm 99% that NONE of the NPC HQs approve of it either, so it's not just us here.

33girl · #36 02-06-2009, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by pirateladybug9

Actually its nothing like that at all. My big is really close to alot of members of my chapter and has other littles as well. Also, he's had a few girlfriends throughout the course of our "relationship".

I guess I just don't understand what the point is putting a label on a good friendship. It seems really juvenile. Isn't it enough to just say that "Josh and I are really good friends"?

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Originally Posted by pirateladybug9

Typically, the bigs get the littles a hoodie with the LITTLE's letters on it (you can't wear another chapters letters unless you go through certain ceremonies as detailed in bylaws or ritual) and underneath it will have the big's chapter SPELLED OUT lil' bro/sis.

I doubt that any groups (male or female) have official ritual for this kind of thing, therefore you're really treading into dangerous territory.

purpletheta · #37 02-06-2009, 09:05 PM

at my school, we place a LOT of emphasis on 'greek families'...so when we have bigs or littles from a fraternity, it's really so we can add them to our greek family tree

i made my big bro a kite and he made me a paddle...which is nice because i don't have one from my own chapter. i don't get to wear his letters or anything like that, he didn't order clothes for me, but bigs and littles between sororities and fraternities is one of the most time-honored tradition here to improve relationships between houses...that and sweetheart weeks.

i understand that the system has been abused a lot in the past and on other campuses, but we've never had that problem...neither have any of our advisers.

AlphaFrog · #38 02-07-2009, 09:22 PM

I had a good laugh and thought of this thread when one of my Facebook Live-Feeds was "Dolly Purvis Lyod (past National VP and about the most proper Southern ASA there is) has joined the Kappa Sigma Little Sisters Alumni Association Group".

cuteASAbug · #39 02-07-2009, 10:17 PM

Actually, it's Kappa Alpha little sisters.

RaggedyAnn · #40 02-08-2009, 09:36 AM

But it was in 1993-4 that they made a big deal about it not being acceptable.

It threatens our ability to be a single sex organization. I would hate to be the chapter that ruined it for my entire GLO because I didn't follow the rules set forth by NPC. It only takes so many inches before you reach a mile.

AlphaFrog · #41 02-09-2009, 06:39 AM

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Actually, it's Kappa Alpha little sisters.

Sorry - my mistake. Same effect, though.

33girl · #42 02-09-2009, 01:57 PM

again - there is a huge difference between an organized LS program (like I'm sure Dolly was in and I can totally see her doing that) where women actually worked to better the fraternity and this ridiculous giving people letters and paddles for no reason other than "I want you to be my big brother."

BaltoAlphaPsi · #43 02-15-2009, 12:19 PM

On my campus we have the sigeps, who (this is what i've HEARD so it may just be our Sig Ep chapter-- it may be national IDK) have Golden Heart Girls, they were like little sisters, but they were basically classy ladies who the sig eps felt were to be honerd for their classyness. One of our local sororitys was founded by a group of golden heart girls, since then GHG are no more, at least for sure in our chapter. It was much like being a sweet heart... but you could NOT wear the letters Sigma Phi Epsilon. (Girlfriends could always wear shirts like I <3 my sig ep, or what not)

Sigma Pi on our campus still has a sweet heart, she is the only non girlfriend girl who is allowed to wear the letters Sigma Pi. She is a non sorority girl. and even after becomming sweetheart does not join a sorority.

Theta Tau use to have little sisters who would wear a sister pin, but that is no more due to some of their chapters being co-ed (they are a proff. eng fraternity that only has 10 or so male only chapters left)

I am a deepher, we are not allowed to do official big/little mixers with any of the fraternites, but we do have mixers with them. Often doing a rotation with the groups and the other sororites. So this semester we will mix with sig ep and possibly sig pi, last semester we were with phi kaps and alpha sigs (7 fraternities, 3 sororites means we have to double) Letters do not get exchanged. we just enjoy spending time with the fraternities. Many of our girls are dating the guys. We use to do big/little, but nationals made us take it off our website, and stop doing it.

Girls are no longer joining sororities to find their husbands ... (well, i'm sure some are- but not the norm) ... so there is no big reason I can see for big/little mixers. The idea of being handcuffed for the night to some frat boy who's getting drunk that I just met... is kinda lame.

alumnisec · #44 02-17-2009, 08:46 PM

okey

ATinsyBitLazy · #45 06-02-2009, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by purpletheta

at my school, we place a LOT of emphasis on 'greek families'...so when we have bigs or littles from a fraternity, it's really so we can add them to our greek family tree

i made my big bro a kite and he made me a paddle...which is nice because i don't have one from my own chapter. i don't get to wear his letters or anything like that, he didn't order clothes for me, but bigs and littles between sororities and fraternities is one of the most time-honored tradition here to improve relationships between houses...that and sweetheart weeks.

i understand that the system has been abused a lot in the past and on other campuses, but we've never had that problem...neither have any of our advisers.

I think if people were smart and mature enough, like in your situation, the whole things would work out just beautifully. I kind of think it would be fun if we did that with our brother fraternity because some of them really do act like my big brothers. I'd have a big brother and sister, oh how fun. =)