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[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Oh my! The photo of the black couple and what looks like placenta and stuff! Oooook...I feel like I'm rubbernecking at the scene of a bad accident. Bad to look at but still looking.

She has her own Warrior Mamas page or something like that. Natural childbirth is something that really terrifies me. I'm afraid I would hate my child after that pain. I know the claim that "you forget the pain." B.S. I'onbelieyall.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

Which shows their lack of sincerity in my opinion.

Oh, they're very sincere. It's their care for their children that's in question.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

I don't recall the article, but I think this is the lady: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxv6R9fUO74

Does anyone else find it incredibly sad that those girls seem to think that their mother is nothing more than a pair of boobs?

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by alphagamzetagam

Does anyone else find it incredibly sad that those girls seem to think that their mother is nothing more than a pair of boobs?

Quite frankly I think that the nursing that they do is starting to arouse some sexual feelings in them. Basically their mom has to "fight" them off while she's dressing. Does that sound like two innocent young children who nurse for the comfort of it? I don't think so. I think they are just too young to be able to realize that what they are feeling is something sexual. Very sick.

But I will say that while watching the video, I got the impression that it is starting to make her a little bit uncomfortable.

[christiangirl]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

She has her own Warrior Mamas page or something like that. Natural childbirth is something that really terrifies me. I'm afraid I would hate my child after that pain. I know the claim that "you forget the pain." B.S. I'onbelieyall.

If I could just be unconscious then wake up when I have a baby I would. Apparently, that's bad for the baby but if they can figure out how to do it safely by the time I have kids...zzzzzzzzzzzz.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

She has her own Warrior Mamas page or something like that. Natural childbirth is something that really terrifies me. I'm afraid I would hate my child after that pain. I know the claim that "you forget the pain." B.S. I'onbelieyall.

I don't really like how some women put such a heavy emphasis on natural childbirth...even going so far as to make women feel as if any other route makes you less of a woman and less of a mom. I personally have no need to be a hero and IF I ever have kids, I would prefer a C-section.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

I don't really like how some women put such a heavy emphasis on natural childbirth...even going so far as to make women feel as if any other route makes you less of a woman and less of a mom. I personally have no need to be a hero and IF I ever have kids, I would prefer a C-section.

Momzillas (you know, women whose entire lives are centered around parenting and criticizing how other people parent) love to make other women feel like they're less of a mom for alot of things, including:

*not having drug-free childbirth
*having a c-section
*delivering in a hospital as opposed to at home or in some sort of natural birthing center
*admitting that childbirth hurt really badly and was not a "wonderful beautiful experience"
*not breastfeeding (even if due to a medical reason)
*putting your baby to sleep in a crib instead of with you in your own bed
*buying baby food from the store (not making it yourself from organic veggies)
*going places with your hubby and not sitting at home with kids all day
*having like 2 kids and and getting your tubes tied because you don't want any more (for whatever reason)



I have met some Momzillas when I worked with kids at a daycare, and I always wanted to tell them to get a life.

[ISUKappa]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

I don't really like how some women put such a heavy emphasis on natural childbirth...even going so far as to make women feel as if any other route makes you less of a woman and less of a mom. I personally have no need to be a hero and IF I ever have kids, I would prefer a C-section.

I will say upfront that I had two completely medicated childbirths (Yay epidurals!) and I am very happy with how their births and recovery (and my recovery) went. I will definitely say even though my second child was very large, the recovery was actually easier than with my first.

However, there is some merit for having a drug-free birth. Everything I've read, and the friends I've talked to who have had a natural childbirth, say their baby is more awake and alert right after delivery, responds to nursing right away better and the recovery was much less painful than if they had a previous medicated birth.

As far as Cesareans go, I think a lot of people don't realize that is Major Surgery. Recovery time is increased and the recovery itself is often more difficult than a vaginal birth. Many OBs will not do elective Cesareans unless medically necessary. And having a c/s doesn't guarantee a painless birth - unless it's an emergency and you're knocked out.

As with anything in life, you have to do the research and decide for yourself what's best for you and your family. I get annoyed with the holier-than-thou moms, too, even though I am friends with some. I just choose not to let it affect me. I own my birthing and parenting skills and they can screw it if they don't approve.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by ISUKappa

I will say upfront that I had two completely medicated childbirths (Yay epidurals!) and I am very happy with how their births and recovery (and my recovery) went. I will definitely say even though my second child was very large, the recovery was actually easier than with my first.

However, there is some merit for having a drug-free birth. Everything I've read, and the friends I've talked to who have had a natural childbirth, say their baby is more awake and alert right after delivery, responds to nursing right away better and the recovery was much less painful than if they had a previous medicated birth.

As far as Cesareans go, I think a lot of people don't realize that is Major Surgery. Recovery time is increased and the recovery itself is often more difficult than a vaginal birth. Many OBs will not do elective Cesareans unless medically necessary. And having a c/s doesn't guarantee a painless birth - unless it's an emergency and you're knocked out.

As with anything in life, you have to do the research and decide for yourself what's best for you and your family. I get annoyed with the holier-than-thou moms, too, even though I am friends with some. I just choose not to let it affect me. I own my birthing and parenting skills and they can screw it if they don't approve.

Great post!!! And I will definitely do the research if I ever decide to have children.

[KSUViolet06]

Tonight's topic on 20/20 was "Extreme Motherhood." One segment featured women who insist on nursing their kids way too long (like we've been talking about here). One woman still nurses her 6 year old boy. There was another whose daughter was I think in THIRD GRADE and still on the boob.

Best wall post of from that Facebook group today:

My boyfriend loves it when I suck his c**k.

He says it's mind-blowing and it improves the quality of his life.

Maybe I should take pictures of us next time I do that and post it all over FaceBook.

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

I don't really like how some women put such a heavy emphasis on natural childbirth...even going so far as to make women feel as if any other route makes you less of a woman and less of a mom. I personally have no need to be a hero and IF I ever have kids, I would prefer a C-section.

There *is* a medium between completely natural and a c-section. A c-section is very painful after the fact because it is major abdominal surgery. Your activities are more restricted afterward. You can have a vaginal delivery with an epidural. I had my kids at a very small hospital who didn't have anesthesia support for epidurals so with my daughter, I had morphine. It was supposed to "take the edge off", but it just made me groggy. An epidural doesn't make the mom groggy. With my son, I got to the hospital too late to have anything so it was completely natural, but not by choice. If I'd had the option, I'd have gotten an epidural and I highly recommend it to anybody!

preciousjeni: You won't hate the baby, it's your HUSBAND you'll get mad at

[KappaKittyCat]

Originally Posted by ISUKappa

However, there is some merit for having a drug-free birth. Everything I've read, and the friends I've talked to who have had a natural childbirth, say their baby is more awake and alert right after delivery, responds to nursing right away better and the recovery was much less painful than if they had a previous medicated birth.

If you just have an epidural it doesn't affect the child because the drugs aren't in your bloodstream, but in your epidural space. It's a type of nerve block, and while I don't understand the biology myself well enough to explain it, I had two separate individuals, an anesthesiologist and a neonatologist, explain to me that it was different, didn't have an affect on the baby, and that women who refused epidurals for that reason were (in their opinions) dumb.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by KappaKittyCat

If you just have an epidural it doesn't affect the child because the drugs aren't in your bloodstream, but in your epidural space. It's a type of nerve block, and while I don't understand the biology myself well enough to explain it, I had two separate individuals, an anesthesiologist and a neonatologist, explain to me that it was different, didn't have an affect on the baby, and that women who refused epidurals for that reason were (in their opinions) dumb.

lol

[SWTXBelle]

I went 12 hours without an epidural for my first labour. Finally had one (OH THANK YOU GOD FOR THE GIFT OF ANESTHESIA) and baby #1 was born about an hour and a half later.
Number #2 - no drugs, nursed her on the delivery table. Numbers 3 and 4 had to be induced - they were going to be HUGE (as it was, #3 was 9 lbs. 2 oz, #4 was 8 lbs. 8 oz.) Thank God I had #3 in the hospital - despite the fact that #2 was smooth, #3 caused massive (as in I lost 4 pints of blood) hemorrhaging. I shudder to think what could have happened had I tried a home birth.
Despite all the differences in their deliveries, the important thing is they are all healthy, intelligent children. My epidurals were perfect - I could still feel contractions, but didn't feel like the pain was going to rip my body in two. Seeing my sister-in-law right after her c-section shaking so violently that the hospital bed was rattling, and hearing of her recovery, made me even more grateful than I had been that I did not have a c-section. I can't imagine doing that electively.
My point? Every delivery is different, as each and every child. I support every woman in her right to her own decisions regarding childbirth and rearing provided they are made with the child's best interests in mind. I have a real problem with self-indulgent mothers who base their decisions on what is going to make THEM feel "better". There is no third grader whose best interests are served by continuing to nurse.