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Old 12-31-2008, 07:53 PM
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When I see things like this, I'm reminded of the "cause-heads" from the movie "PCU." People just protesting for the sake of protesting...we used to have a bunch of them at Boston U, but it appears they're spread all over the place.
That's pretty much how I feel about it.


If Facebook has a clear policy about what constitutes obscene photos, then these women have to deal with the consequences if they are in violation. I hope Facebook doesn't back down on this issue.
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Old 12-31-2008, 08:27 PM
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When I see things like this, I'm reminded of the "cause-heads" from the movie "PCU." People just protesting for the sake of protesting...we used to have a bunch of them at Boston U, but it appears they're spread all over the place.
We're not gonna protest!
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Old 12-31-2008, 08:37 PM
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I fully support breastfeeding, including bfing in public as long as the mother complies with general discretion. I loved bfing, even though it was really difficult for me. But this is just silly. IIRC Photobucket and flickr have similar guidelines and lj had some issue with bfing pics used as icons. The uproar over those eventually died down, and so will this.
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Old 12-31-2008, 08:47 PM
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seeing as this actually applies to me now (ha!) i have to side with facebook. i just really don't see the point of taking pics of me breastfeeding my child and posting them online. is that really necessary?! discretion is key here. and i'm not so much about the boobie being gross but rather that i don't want some damn dirty pervs starting at my nips.

as for bf in public. ehh. i'm split. i have no desire to whip them out while eating at a restaurant because i think its possible to have better timing. but i already understand that sometimes you need to feed the kid - that's why i have a small blanket/towel to maintain some privacy and respect other people.

what i won't deal with though is people who want women to bf in restrooms. THAT is unsanitary and disgusting. if you wouldn't eat your dinner in a public restroom neither will my kid.
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Old 12-31-2008, 08:55 PM
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Which part of it was unsanitary? The feet?
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I agree with Jeni, what part is unsanitary? That woman does have a right to breastfeed her child wherever she chooses.
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Old 12-31-2008, 10:41 PM
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I don't understand why women have to breastfeed at the table in restaurants though. Restaurants already have a policy that says you must be wearing a shirt and shoes when you come in to eat. There is a reason for that. When someone just whips out their breast and starts breastfeeding at the table, with no cover, it seems like that is a violation of the policy. And it does seem a bit unsanitary.
I'm having trouble understanding how it's unsanitary. I get why it would make other patrons uncomfortable. But, unsanitary? How is a breast unsanitary?
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Old 12-31-2008, 10:42 PM
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as for bf in public. ehh. i'm split. i have no desire to whip them out while eating at a restaurant because i think its possible to have better timing. but i already understand that sometimes you need to feed the kid - that's why i have a small blanket/towel to maintain some privacy and respect other people.

what i won't deal with though is people who want women to bf in restrooms. THAT is unsanitary and disgusting. if you wouldn't eat your dinner in a public restroom neither will my kid.
EXACTLY!
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Old 12-31-2008, 11:19 PM
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I'm having trouble understanding how it's unsanitary. I get why it would make other patrons uncomfortable. But, unsanitary? How is a breast unsanitary?
Technically, human boobie juice secretes all kinds of stuff--it is thought HIV is secreted by human boobie juice... It is just as bad as a human bite. While it is the best nutrition for THAT woman's child, it is NOT the safest nutrition for unrelated patrons sitting close to her... Meaning as close as I was to the baby, aside from the little unruly tyke kicking me, if her chit skeeted on me, Oh, you had better believe she would have gotten sued for endangering my health...

Same reason why pets besides "seeing eye dogs" are NOT allowed in the grocery store... That's public health... Talk to them...
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Old 12-31-2008, 11:42 PM
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Technically, human boobie juice secretes all kinds of stuff--it is thought HIV is secreted by human boobie juice... It is just as bad as a human bite. While it is the best nutrition for THAT woman's child, it is NOT the safest nutrition for unrelated patrons sitting close to her... Meaning as close as I was to the baby, aside from the little unruly tyke kicking me, if her chit skeeted on me, Oh, you had better believe she would have gotten sued for endangering my health...

Same reason why pets besides "seeing eye dogs" are NOT allowed in the grocery store... That's public health... Talk to them...
Seeing eye dogs aren't pets. That's another I don't quite get. Why some animals are allowed in restaurants and others are not. I've been to restaurants (granted, these places of business were not in the U.S.) where dogs were allowed at the tables of their owners. They'd even eat table scraps. As long as they aren't mangy, I really don't care. It's the kitchen that really concerns me.

I gotcha on the breastmilk thing, but it seems an extreme concern to me.
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Old 12-31-2008, 11:55 PM
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Seeing eye dogs aren't pets. That's another I don't quite get. Why some animals are allowed in restaurants and others are not. I've been to restaurants (granted, these places of business were not in the U.S.) where dogs were allowed at the tables of their owners. They'd even eat table scraps. As long as they aren't mangy, I really don't care. It's the kitchen that really concerns me.

I gotcha on the breastmilk thing, but it seems an extreme concern to me.
So if they weren't in the US, then what exactly is it you don't get?

But in a restaurant you should be concerned about more than the kitchen.
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Old 12-31-2008, 11:56 PM
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Seeing eye dogs aren't pets. That's another I don't quite get. Why some animals are allowed in restaurants and others are not. I've been to restaurants (granted, these places of business were not in the U.S.) where dogs were allowed at the tables of their owners. They'd even eat table scraps. As long as they aren't mangy, I really don't care. It's the kitchen that really concerns me.

I gotcha on the breastmilk thing, but it seems an extreme concern to me.
BESIDES "seeing eye dogs"...

Technically "pets" are NOT allowed in restaurants that serve humans. If you EAT in a place where you sit down, using the restaurant's plates, cups and "eatingware", they MUST ensure a reasonable level of sanitation upon receipt of your meal. So, if it is some beach burger joint, and you use their area to eat, they are liable for anything that happens from the time you sit down, get served and eat... And hot dog stands have to have some level of sanitation.

Now if you choose to eat your food on your beach blanket rather than their area, the liability is reduced.

PETS confound this issue in restaurants--this is different from "seeing eye dogs--or assistance animals" they are trained from an early age to behave a particular way in ALL situations... But random pets, not appropriate where human food is prepared or consumed...

It's like that dog that stole the dog bone at the Walmart recently--not that's funny...
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So if they weren't in the US, then what exactly is it you don't get?

But in a restaurant you should be concerned about more than the kitchen.
Have you thought about what incredibly nasty and vile germs are on the bottoms of the shoes that you're tracking through restaurants? That dust gets kicked up and into your food. There are bacteria in the dirt in some places that is, IIRC, 50X stronger than any antibiotic we've ever discovered. Let a little of that dust get on your food and see what happens. I never let restaurant workers sweep near me while I'm eating. Now, THAT's disgusting!

I'm eh on animals in restaurants and don't really care as long as they're clean and flea free. They're no dirtier than we are and I'm more likely to catch an illness from a person than an animal anyway. But, like I said, I wouldn't want anything getting in and contaminating food in the kitchen...people included.

If you just don't like dogs, that's on you. But, the idea that groomed dogs would make a restaurant any dirtier than we already make it is laughable...thus why seeing-eye dogs are a-ok.

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It's like that dog that stole the dog bone at the Walmart recently--not that's funny...
I loved that the store manager "confronted" the dog and said something like "DROP IT!" LOLOLOL!
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Old 01-01-2009, 12:40 AM
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Have you thought about what incredibly nasty and vile germs are on the bottoms of the shoes that you're tracking through restaurants? That dust gets kicked up and into your food. There are bacteria in the dirt in some places that is, IIRC, 50X stronger than any antibiotic we've ever discovered. Let a little of that dust get on your food and see what happens. I never let restaurant workers sweep near me while I'm eating. Now, THAT's disgusting!

I'm eh on animals in restaurants and don't really care as long as they're clean and flea free. They're no dirtier than we are and I'm more likely to catch an illness from a person than an animal anyway. But, like I said, I wouldn't want anything getting in and contaminating food in the kitchen...people included.

If you just don't like dogs, that's on you. But, the idea that groomed dogs would make a restaurant any dirtier than we already make it is laughable...thus why seeing-eye dogs are a-ok.
Are you talking to me specifically when you say "you" or are you just saying a general "you?"

As for the part about germs on shoes, I think we all know that germs are carried in on shoes. And I also don't let people sweep near me in restaurants.
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Old 01-01-2009, 01:05 AM
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That movie holds a special place in my heart, if only because it references the CT blue laws that are still on the books (no alcohol served on Sundays or past 9 pm).
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Are you talking to me specifically when you say "you" or are you just saying a general "you?"

As for the part about germs on shoes, I think we all know that germs are carried in on shoes. And I also don't let people sweep near me in restaurants.
General. Obviously, I don't know if you personally like or don't like dogs.
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