100 Students Arrested - which fraternity is involved?

[jon1856]

Front page of campus newspaper:
http://www.thedailyaztec.com/

Cartel connection uncovered in SDSU bust
http://media.www.thedailyaztec.com/m...-3366789.shtml

[sdsuchelle]

There are like 30,000 students at SDSU and:

"To date, 33 students have been arrested; each of those students has been suspended. We believe we have arrested the majority of those involved."

..... they have got to be kidding, hahaha.

[Senusret I]

They're obviously not kidding.

[Kevin]

Please remember not to post any rumors here. Just the facts.

[sdsuchelle]

Let's be honest here, do you really think at a "party" school like SDSU (or any large school for that matter), only 33 out of several tens of thousands of students are doing or dealing drugs? There's no way. I mean its definitely commendable but IMO they will never solve the drug problem.

Originally Posted by sdsuchelle

Let's be honest here, do you really think at a "party" school like SDSU (or any large school for that matter), only 33 out of several tens of thousands of students are doing or dealing drugs? There's no way.

I think you really should just keep your mouth shut. Please see Kevin's post about not posting rumors.

Srsly.

[jon1856]

Found this rather interesting blog on this matter.
Seems to be all GLO's on this:
http://understandmyteen.com/blog/san...out-frats.html

[sdsuchelle]

What the hell? You all are WAY too quick to jump on people. How is that a rumor? Let's think statistically. Take ANY group of 30,000 young people and I will guarantee you that more than .001% of them are dealing or doing drugs.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by sdsuchelle

There are like 30,000 students at SDSU and:

"To date, 33 students have been arrested; each of those students has been suspended. We believe we have arrested the majority of those involved."

..... they have got to be kidding, hahaha.

Talk about taking things out of context.
Without looking up the speaker, I would say that they were directly referring to this matter, this case, this operation.
And nothing else.

[sdsuchelle]

The Union-Tribune posted an op-ed article today about the whole debacle that is pretty sensationalist/anti-Greek:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/n...c8jenkins.html

Greeks allegedly turned to greed

UNION-TRIBUNE

May 8, 2008

My word, times have a-changed at my old alma mater.

When I attended San Diego State University in the late '60s – and when I taught there in the '70s – the typical Greek male was a well-groomed, well-proportioned business major with his clear eye on a corporate future.

Pot? Diet pills? Maybe a few times as an “experiment.”

But the after-hours focus was on Bud, not sinsemilla buds. Acting out and throwing up, not freaking or munching out, was the normal outcome of weekend excess.

The avid midnight (and noontime) tokers of that absurd era were the long-haired non-Greek students, many of whom hitchhiked from the corner of Montezuma and Remington roads with hand-painted signs telegraphing their beach destination – OB, MB, PB – to passing VWs.

These were the hippie kids who listened to KPRI, San Diego's seminal FM “underground” rock station, and bought (and sold) drugs in a loosely organized black market.

By and large, fraternity men (and well-mannered sorority women) were the reassuring counterweights to the counter-cultured students who routinely risked going to jail either as a small-time trafficker or illegal drug user.

These were the opposite poles I observed every day on campus: The Greeks were, by definition, good, if not gods; the Freaks were, by definition, soft-hearted outlaws.

That old social order explains why this balding Boomer is having a hard time digesting the giant drug bust on Montezuma Mesa.

Mind you, I'm not at all shocked that drug use is rampant at State or any other college. The culture is besotted with drugs. I watch TV series like “Weeds.” I've seen movies like “Blow.”

No, what blows me into the weeds is that seven – seven – fraternities are alleged to have been involved in the campus criminal ring.

At State, the Big Men on Campus, it appears, have devolved from scholar-athletes and future captains of industry to below-life entrepreneurs whose infernal products killed a Poway girl a year ago.



Theta Chi, the fraternity investigators identified as a major hub of cocaine retailing on campus, prides itself on its lofty statement of purpose.

This sacred creed is repeated by members at chapter meetings.

For your inspiration, here is the Theta Chi creed:

I believe in Theta Chi, its traditions and its ideals. Born of sturdy manhood, nurtured by resolute men, ennobled by high and sacred purpose, it has taken its place among the educational institutions of America as a promoter of knowledge, an advancer of culture and a builder of character.

It inspires true friendship, teaches truth, temperance and tolerance, extols virtue, exacts harmony, and extends a helping hand to all who seek it.

I believe in the primacy of Alma Mater; in the usefulness of my Fraternity, in its influence and its accomplishments and I shall do all in my power to perpetuate its ideals, thereby serving my God, my country and my fellow man.

In light of recent events, I'm submitting an SDSU update of the flowery old mission statement:

I believe in Theta Chi, its criminal business ethic and its dedication to peak highs on campus. Reborn of brazen dope dealers, nurtured by Mexican cartel gangsters, enriched by technological enterprise, it has taken its place among the gun-toting drug merchants of America as a promoter of psychotic frenzy, an advancer of fatal overdoses and a builder of brotherly wealth.

It inspires sleazy capitalism, teaches Deceit, Intoxication and Exploitation, extols honor among thieves, exacts a fair cut from nearly pure Colombian cocaine, and extends a helping hand to all who seek a hit of dope via text message.

I believe in the primacy of the bong and the coke spoon; in the cover from narcs provided by my Fraternity; in its market penetration and I shall do all in my power to enlist more student marks, thereby serving my supplier, my brothers in crime and, last and definitely least, my dumb-as-dirt clients.



As charges are filed – and sentences handed down – young lives will be put on hold, their futures frozen behind bars.

The district attorney, stung by embarrassing reversals in court, will be only too happy to throw the hardback book at the campus dealers and their eager clients.

Justice, especially when it comes to drugs, is a sort of lottery. A relative few get caught. That's the take-the-money-and-run reality of the drug trade.

One of the dirty, but obviously undocumented, secrets is how much illicit money has funded legitimate businesses and real-estate purchases for now law-abiding citizens.

So the wonder isn't that students broke the law to feel like big shots and make easy money on a product whose black-market value is propped up by its illegality.

No, the wonder, at least to me, is that a network of fraternities, societies that draw upon religious and patriotic values, could appear to operate as virtual fronts for a drug ring.

If it were possible to go back to SDSU in the '60s or '70s and report that news flash from the future, long-haired students would have looked at you as if you were crazy and said, “C'mon, man. No way. But whatever it is you're smoking, can I have a hit?”

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by sdsuchelle

What the hell? You all are WAY too quick to jump on people. How is that a rumor? Let's think statistically. Take ANY group of 30,000 young people and I will guarantee you that more than .001% of them are dealing or doing drugs.

Why are you being hysterical about this? You are stereotyping people and stereotypes are dangerous. I believe your smugness masks an issue with drugs you're not dealing with.

[sdsuchelle]

Originally Posted by jon1856

Talk about taking things out of context.
Without looking up the speaker, I would say that they were directly referring to this matter, this case, this operation.
And nothing else.

OMG I swear you people will argue/freak out about anything.

My point = SDSU shouldn't start acting like they've completely eliminated the problem by running this operation. Obviously its commendable and good that they arrested this amount of people but the problem is so much bigger, not only at the school but in the entire city.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by SoCalGirl

http://advancement.sdsu.edu/marcomm/information/

The school is claiming only 33 of the the original 96 are students.

Who were the others? Random townies? Alums? People from other schools?

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by sdsuchelle

The Union-Tribune posted an op-ed article today about the whole debacle that is pretty sensationalist/anti-Greek:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/n...c8jenkins.html

^^^Care to fix your violation of GC TOS and copy-write laws?
Link and a few lines are all that is needed.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by sdsuchelle

OMG I swear you people will argue/freak out about anything.

My point = SDSU shouldn't start acting like they've completely eliminated the problem by running this operation. Obviously its commendable and good that they arrested this amount of people but the problem is so much bigger, not only at the school but in the entire city.

Perhaps you should have posted this first
I do agree with this posting.