Pregnant Man

[CutiePie2000]

If this person is pumped full of artificial hormones in order to have male-characteristics and be legally "a man", I wonder what the health of the baby will be, being exposed to all of these unnatural hormone levels? Weird.

Eta: I say this because I read a book called "All She Wanted", by Aphrodite Jones, which was the story of Teena Brandon (i.e. the "Boys Don't Cry" movie). When Teena's Mom was pregnant with her, the Mom did take a short course of some type of hormone therapy (I can't remember what for...) and I'm convinced that the fetus of Teena being exposed to that adversely affected her.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by sageofages

I have many many friends who are transgendered...and transexual at various stages of change. (you can be transgendered WITHOUT being transexual) I understand the reasons behind what he is doing, although I can't say I agree with doing it.

Just out of curiously, what led you to have "many many friends" who are transgendered? As just as a statistical matter, having many many transgendered friends seems like it would be something that few people could claim, and I'm curious about the circumstances. It seems like it would be tied to working in a particular field or, of course, meeting the friends of friends in the context of supporting groups maybe.

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

The way I understand it, apparently, the full gender reassingment surgery makes an extention at the clitoral region where it is the "most similar" in responsiveness that occurs in the male. all the female parts are removed: ovaries, oviducts and uterus. I do not think it is possible surgically to create a prostate, and insert the urinary tract through it, since it is a gland, so some how it must be bypassed.

. . .

Sorry for the misspelling, but right now, I am inebriated...

hee hee. Inebriated and posting about transgendered people on GreekChat, who would have thunk?

[sageofages]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Just out of curiously, what led you to have "many many friends" who are transgendered? As just as a statistical matter, having many many transgendered friends seems like it would be something that few people could claim, and I'm curious about the circumstances. It seems like it would be tied to working in a particular field or, of course, meeting the friends of friends in the context of supporting groups maybe.?

I don't work in a field that would bring me into contact. My closest contact is a family member. I can think of at least a dozen or so...some I would consider more "close" than others. Some are "friendly acquaintances" (as I would go out with them to have drinks after work). I have met them through other friends who are transgendered as well.

No they aren't all "gay". I actually know two male=>female transexuals who are lesbian lovers .

They are all people just trying to fit their bodies to their "souls".

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

hee hee. Inebriated and posting about transgendered people on GreekChat, who would have thunk?

You should seem me when I get high... That's even more hilarious.

[RaggedyAnn]

He'll be on Oprah tomorrow.

It's a Girl for the 'Pregnant Man'

I hope they're sure this one's a girl.

What's interesting is that it was a natural delivery.

[nikki1920]

He's still physically a woman.

[FSUZeta]

Originally Posted by nikki1920

He's still physically a woman.

thank you! it really bugs me that that attention grabber is billing herself as a man who is pregnant. as we say in the south,"that dog don't hunt"!

She's pregnant again

[Langox510x]

Originally Posted by FSUZeta

thank you! it really bugs me that that attention grabber is billing herself as a man who is pregnant. as we say in the south,"that dog don't hunt"!

Yeah, I mean it's just a chick.

[NutBrnHair]

I think it's a new low for Barbara Walters...and Oprah. This is the stuff Jerry Springer is made of.

[LightBulb]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

It is testicular formation that makes a male. NOT penile formation. The genes that make the penis are on other chromosomes, not the sex chromosomes.

Even in completely impoverished, malnourished conditions, the segregation of gender at least as the genetic level is maintained.

Fascinating! Thanks for the biology lesson. One thing I'd like to note, though, is that sex (female, male) is biological; gender (feminine, masculine, androgynous) is social.

Originally Posted by kstar

Gender issues are a sensitive subject I know, but if someone says that they want to be identified as a man, they should be.

Well said. I don't believe it's our place to say otherwise. Besides, what's the need to pin this person down with labels, anyway? Unless you were hoping to date him, it shouldn't really concern you.

[LightBulb]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

He's not a man by any sane standard

Not only is that inflammatory, but it also is a logical fallacy.

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

despite actually being biologically a women.

Debatable.

[ZTABullwinkle]

Originally Posted by CutiePie2000

If this person is pumped full of artificial hormones in order to have male-characteristics and be legally "a man", I wonder what the health of the baby will be, being exposed to all of these unnatural hormone levels? Weird.

Eta: I say this because I read a book called "All She Wanted", by Aphrodite Jones, which was the story of Teena Brandon (i.e. the "Boys Don't Cry" movie). When Teena's Mom was pregnant with her, the Mom did take a short course of some type of hormone therapy (I can't remember what for...) and I'm convinced that the fetus of Teena being exposed to that adversely affected her.

I have to wonder also what effect those hormones will have on the first baby. According to what I have read, "he" did not go back on the hormones after the birth of the first baby. If so, how is it he still have facial hair?

Personally, I feel sorry for the children of this couple. Can you imagine the ridicule they are going to face growing up?

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by LightBulb

Fascinating! Thanks for the biology lesson. One thing I'd like to note, though, is that sex (female, male) is biological; gender (feminine, masculine, androgynous) is social.Well said. I don't believe it's our place to say otherwise. Besides, what's the need to pin this person down with labels, anyway? Unless you were hoping to date him, it shouldn't really concern you.

This needed to be said.