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RaggedyAnn 03-26-2008 05:24 PM

Pregnant Man
 
Just on the news...

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-w...nsgender-birth

Unregistered- 03-26-2008 05:31 PM

Ah, Tom Beatie. I remember him. I didn't like the guy then...and I still don't like him now.

He's not a man if he kept his female organs. I don't know what the big deal is.

Here's a link to local coverage here: http://starbulletin.com/2008/03/26/news/story04.html

UGAalum94 03-26-2008 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1624494)
Ah, Tom Beatie. I remember him. I didn't like the guy then...and I still don't like him now.

He's not a man if he kept his female organs. I don't know what the big deal is.

Here's a link to local coverage here: http://starbulletin.com/2008/03/26/news/story04.html

Yep. Without making too many judgments, I'm just going with, you aren't a man if you have a uterus.

nikki1920 03-26-2008 06:20 PM

That was my thought.

James 03-26-2008 08:10 PM

You are not a man if you can't ditch the extra X-Chromosome.

lilzetakitten 03-26-2008 08:48 PM

If (s)he wanted to become pregnant, (s)he clearly didn't want to become a man that badly. Still got the organs, still a woman.

amanda6035 03-28-2008 09:20 AM

All I can say is....if you're a transgendered man, married to a woman, why did you have artificial insemination to get pregnant, instead of your wife? The article didnt specify that his wife couldn't bear children (unless I totally missed it...), so I dont understand why this transgendered guy is seeking this attention. Why not have the wife get pregnant, instead of him?

Freakin lunatics.

ISUKappa 03-28-2008 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by amanda6035 (Post 1625428)
All I can say is....if you're a transgendered man, married to a woman, why did you have artificial insemination to get pregnant, instead of your wife? The article didnt specify that his wife couldn't bear children (unless I totally missed it...), so I dont understand why this transgendered guy is seeking this attention. Why not have the wife get pregnant, instead of him?

Freakin lunatics.

Quote:

Beatie, who was a gay rights activist in Hawaii, said his wife is unable to have children after having surgery because of severe endometriosis
Another article I read stated the wife had a hysterectomy.

amanda6035 03-28-2008 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ISUKappa (Post 1625435)
Another article I read stated the wife had a hysterectomy.


Ahhhhh....gotcha. Well, I guess that makes sense.....but STILL...

ewww. Poor child.

AlethiaSi 03-28-2008 09:56 AM

scbelle brought this up in the weird news story thread and I responded here and here
I just feel bad for all the press that the child will get....

DaemonSeid 03-28-2008 01:33 PM

This must have been a slow news week...

Well the thing of it is...she (yes she not he) must have the baby and if I heard correctly the last couple of preganancies were ectopic pregnancies.


Before allegedly becoming pregnant about five months ago through home insemination, Beatie stopped taking testosterone injections and his "body regulated itself," he wrote. He said he was forced to abort a previous pregnancy of triplets because of life-threatening complications, but that now is due to give birth to a girl on July 3.

"How does it feel to be a pregnant man?" Beatie continued. "Incredible. Despite the fact that my belly is growing with a new life inside me, I am stable and confident being the man that I am."

In Hawaii, Beatie was known as Tracy LaGondino, then a chairwoman for the Civil Unions-Civil Rights group. Michael Golojuch, who joined LaGondino in a gay and lesbian March in Honolulu in 2001, said he was aware of her name change but that they had not talked since she moved away.

kstar 03-28-2008 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1624494)
Ah, Tom Beatie. I remember him. I didn't like the guy then...and I still don't like him now.

He's not a man if he kept his female organs. I don't know what the big deal is.

Here's a link to local coverage here: http://starbulletin.com/2008/03/26/news/story04.html

He only kept the internal organs, superficially, he's a man. Gender issues are a sensitive subject I know, but if someone says that they want to be identified as a man, they should be.

DaemonSeid 03-28-2008 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kstar (Post 1625546)
He only kept the internal organs, superficially, he's a man. Gender issues are a sensitive subject I know, but if someone says that they want to be identified as a man, they should be.

I don't know if I necessarily agree with that, being as there are a whole set of psychological tests that one has to go thru before they are even approved for gender reassignment. With that said...and after givng that article the once over, I am thinking how ethical is it to let this person go back and get themselves impregnated after they made a serious choice to become a man?

I am hoping that this doesn't set a precedent that those who are opting for gender reassignment will follow along and want to have the best of both worlds.

I apologize if this sounds harsh...but the moment you make that decision to switch...either do it and go all the way with it or don't do it at all.

I almost feel like this person went 1/2 way and is regressing....next thing he will want to breastfeed.....

KSig RC 03-28-2008 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kstar (Post 1625546)
He only kept the internal organs, superficially, he's a man. Gender issues are a sensitive subject I know, but if someone says that they want to be identified as a man, they should be.

I agree that the individual should be identified as male for the purposes of how that individual is treated by law or culture - however, scientifically, this is not the same as a male having a child, and I can't think that there is any positive in treating this any other way.

RaggedyAnn 03-28-2008 03:06 PM

I wonder how the birth certificate will read. Is there a legal definition for mother and father?


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