GreekChat.com Forums  

Go Back   GreekChat.com Forums > Recruitment
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Recruitment General discussion about recruitment.

» GC Stats
Members: 329,748
Threads: 115,668
Posts: 2,205,158
Welcome to our newest member, Alberttus
» Online Users: 5,273
1 members and 5,272 guests
John
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #16  
Old 08-24-2007, 03:42 PM
FuzzieAlum FuzzieAlum is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Nashville
Posts: 1,762
But back in the day, I don't think it was unusual for bids to be given out before school even started. (Although I know nothing about Ole Miss in particular.)
__________________
Alpha Xi Delta
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 08-24-2007, 05:01 PM
AngieWashU AngieWashU is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Colorado
Posts: 166
According to the book Bound by a Mighty Vow, the reason the term "rushing" was coined was because for the sorority and fraternity members rushing to the incoming to trains to pin/pledge the members they wanted.
__________________
It's the link that keeps us strong, and reminds we belong, to the Delta Gamma bonds of sisterhood.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 08-24-2007, 05:32 PM
AlexMack AlexMack is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: 33girl's campaign manager
Posts: 2,881
Quote:
Originally Posted by AngieWashU View Post
According to the book Bound by a Mighty Vow, the reason the term "rushing" was coined was because for the sorority and fraternity members rushing to the incoming to trains to pin/pledge the members they wanted.
Okay...that's wonderful. Not sure how that's a dirty rushing story.
__________________
I'll take trainwreck for 100 Alex.

And Jesus speaketh, "do unto others as they did unto you because the bitches deserve it".

Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 08-24-2007, 07:50 PM
TSteven TSteven is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Left Coast
Posts: 3,598
Quote:
Originally Posted by NutBrnHair View Post
One of my dear, older friends told me that when her brother arrived on the train to attend Ole Miss as a freshman in the 1930s, he got off the train wearing his Sigma Chi badge.
Was it a pledge pin or the actual badge? If it was pledge pin, that wouldn't be that dirty rushing at all. Currently, the NIC and many campus IFCs allow bids to be extend and accepted over the summer. I'm fairly certain that given the date (circa 1930s), this might have been true for Ole Miss as well. Now, if it was the Badge, then again, given the times, perhaps some sort of summer initiation might have been allowed.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 08-25-2007, 07:45 AM
AlphaFrog AlphaFrog is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: The Ozdust Ballroom
Posts: 14,819
Quote:
Originally Posted by AngieWashU View Post
According to the book Bound by a Mighty Vow, the reason the term "rushing" was coined was because for the sorority and fraternity members rushing to the incoming to trains to pin/pledge the members they wanted.
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexMack View Post
Okay...that's wonderful. Not sure how that's a dirty rushing story.
I think she was responding to this:

Quote:
Originally Posted by NutBrnHair View Post
One of my dear, older friends told me that when her brother arrived on the train to attend Ole Miss as a freshman in the 1930s, he got off the train wearing his Sigma Chi badge.
__________________
Facile remedium est ubertati; sterilia nullo labore vincuntur.
I think pearls are lovely, especially when you need something to clutch. ~ AzTheta
The Real World Can't Hear You ~ GC Troll
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 08-26-2007, 12:51 AM
sarasmile sarasmile is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 75
I was on Panhel exec when I heard about this one...

There was a chapter on our campus which had a reputation for taking only wealthy girls. I'll call it "XYZ". (2 members of this chapter happened to be on Panhel Exec with me, BTW.)

That year, a young woman with a very recognizable family name went through rush at my campus. I'll call her "Kelly". (Her great-grandfather founded a huge national company that you'd all recognize, and her family still owned it.) XYZ was absolutely certain beyond question that "Kelly" would pledge their house just because of her name...before rush even began they were counting on landing her. Their members would openly talk about how great/prestigious it was going to be to have "Kelly" as a pledge. When the talk started getting around amongst sorority members, a lot of people made the assumption that "Kelly" wanted XYZ as much as they obviously wanted her.

Many other chapters were so certain that "Kelly" would end up going XYZ that she got dropped from a lot of chapters...and had pretty heavy cuts between third round and preference. Which was a shame, because she was a dream PNM even without the family name. Smart, gorgeous, funny, friendly...she could have had her pick of almost any house on almost any campus. She was oblivious to how much XYZ was talking her up behind the scenes, and that it was affecting her invitations back to other chapters.

"Kelly" ended up being invited to 2 chapters for preference - XYZ and ABC. ABC was one of the smallest chapters on campus at the time, and they unfortunately often experienced a lot of negative tent talk. (Guys would tell PNMs that the chapter was full of all "fat girls," even though that wasn't true and there were plenty of attractive women there. A few heavier women too, but who cares?)

"Kelly" ended up receiving a bid from ABC.

After Bid Day, "Kelly" came to the Panhel office very confused and said that she thought she had received the wrong bid. (Our whole exec board happened to be there, because we'd just had a brief meeting to wrap up some rush stuff.) We explained briefly how bid matching works and said that she hadn't received the wrong bid...she just matched up with ABC based on where they had each other ranked on their lists.

But...there is a happy ending...

I know you're probably thinking that "Kelly" was confused/upset because she wanted the wealthy, popular XYZ chapter, and assumed that she couldn't possibly have actually matched with the less desireable ABCs.

You'd be wrong though. Turns out that "Kelly" was confused and came to our office because of a little run in she'd had with some XYZs. They tracked her down on campus and assured her that she wouldn't be "stuck" with a bid from ABC...there must have been some mistake because she was #1 on XYZs bid list. Surely she should have matched with them! And they assured her that they would get the problem fixed for her.

"Kelly" was concerned because she had intentionally put ABC first...she didn't want to get that bid taken away and be forced to go XYZ. (She didn't know much about bid matching, and when XYZ told her that she had been their #1 she was worried that her own personal ranking might not matter.)

Not knowing that there were 2 XYZs in the room (remember - I said 2 of them were on Panhel exec w/me ), she also went on to say that she didn't care much for the XYZs because they never bothered to get to know her during rush...just wanted to talk about her family and certain "status" things. She felt like the ABCs were more interested in getting to know her as an individual person, not just as someone from a prominent family. Although I really did like and get along with the 2 XYZ members on exec with me, the look on their faces was priceless when "Kelly" was telling how relieved she was that she could stay with ABC and not get "stuck" with XYZ.

I don't think XYZ ever had a clue that the dirty rushing was going to backfire on them in the end. Its a shame that XYZ's actions affected Kelly's chances with other groups, but as far as I know she remained a happy, involved member of ABC until she graduated. (I graduated while she was a junior, and I recall she was still a member then...whether or not she left that chapter during her senior year, I don't know.)

Last edited by sarasmile; 08-26-2007 at 12:53 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 08-27-2007, 12:48 PM
honeychile's Avatar
honeychile honeychile is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Counting my blessings!
Posts: 31,413
I don't know if this is dirty rushing, but one of the sororities on my campus was known to do a Dun & Bradstreet on the PNMs they were interested in after the first round of cuts. Two of my friends, both of whom came from respectable homes, were cut after their family incomes didn't meet their standards.

I understand financial responsibility, but a Dun & Bradstreet?!?!?!?!
__________________
~ *~"ADPi"~*~
Proud to be a Macon Magnolia
"He who is not busy being born is busy dying." Bob Dylan
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 08-27-2007, 12:50 PM
AlphaFrog AlphaFrog is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: The Ozdust Ballroom
Posts: 14,819
Quote:
Originally Posted by honeychile View Post
I don't know if this is dirty rushing, but one of the sororities on my campus was known to do a Dun & Bradstreet on the PNMs they were interested in after the first round of cuts. Two of my friends, both of whom came from respectable homes, were cut after their family incomes didn't meet their standards.

I understand financial responsibility, but a Dun & Bradstreet?!?!?!?!
Is that even allowed without specific consent?

If some GLO asked me to sign a consent to pull a D&B, I'd tell them where to put that consent.
__________________
Facile remedium est ubertati; sterilia nullo labore vincuntur.
I think pearls are lovely, especially when you need something to clutch. ~ AzTheta
The Real World Can't Hear You ~ GC Troll
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 08-27-2007, 01:17 PM
AnchorAlumna AnchorAlumna is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Old South
Posts: 2,939
(sigh...I just LOVE crazy recruitment stories!)
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 08-27-2007, 01:26 PM
mystikchick mystikchick is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 386
Quote:
Originally Posted by honeychile View Post
I don't know if this is dirty rushing, but one of the sororities on my campus was known to do a Dun & Bradstreet on the PNMs they were interested in after the first round of cuts. Two of my friends, both of whom came from respectable homes, were cut after their family incomes didn't meet their standards.

I understand financial responsibility, but a Dun & Bradstreet?!?!?!?!
After a quick Google search to find out what Dun and Bradstreet is, all I can say is I'm appalled they'd even be ALLOWED to do such a thing or that anyone would even give them the time of day knowing they did that.
__________________
Pi Delta Phi
Avançons, amis fidèles de la culture française
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 08-27-2007, 01:35 PM
AlethiaSi AlethiaSi is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: freakin' out
Posts: 1,728
Send a message via AIM to AlethiaSi
During our rush about two years ago i'd say now, things were really competitive (more so than normal) b/c total had been raised (we never hit total, nor do we want to, we're local so it doesn't really matter to us anyway) Anyway, all the girls went to all the parties the first day in the student union. Later that night, one of my sisters was at work at friendly's and (with no lavalier or any letters on) waited on a table FULL of ABC's and about 8 PNM's. (not to mention there is a silent period, so the fact that they were even out with them was bad enough) The ABC's were practically putting letters on these girls and guarenteeing them bids all over the place. Finally, when my sister dropped the check, she went up to the President of ABC (she knew who she was) and said, i'd be careful what you say, you never know who's listening. I'm in Nu Sig. The girl's face DROPPED and so my sister came to eboard and we reported them. The lost their entire pledge class.
__________________
you don't need electricity to cut pineapple.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 08-27-2007, 03:07 PM
ForeverRoses ForeverRoses is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: right here
Posts: 2,055
When I went through rush, lawn chants were still the norm. At the end of the party, we were escorted out the door and onto the front walk, then all the sisters would come out and do various songs and chants (think hyper pep rally)

While standing in front of one of the houses, the active right in front of us dropped a piece of paper while she was jumping, clapping and chanting. afterward, she turned and walked back inside the house. One of my fellow rush group members (who had just been rushed by this girl) picked up the piece of paper and written on it was a list of names with notes, stars and other symbols next to it. It was obviously a "cheat sheet" of the rushees from the party.

After we passed the note around (it was easy to decide if we should drop the house based on our rating!) she turned it in to the PX.

The next day the rusher who dropped the paper confronted the rushee and asked why she had turned it in. Turns out, she dropped it on purpose so that the rushee would know she "had" a spot.

Oh, and we had a house get in trouble during skit rounds when another house was doing a "Pepsi" themed skit. Several of the members of ABC started yelling "Drink Coke" in the middle of XYZ's chants (the chants usually followed the theme of the skits).
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 08-27-2007, 03:14 PM
33girl 33girl is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Hotel Oceanview
Posts: 34,519
Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRoses View Post
Oh, and we had a house get in trouble during skit rounds when another house was doing a "Pepsi" themed skit. Several of the members of ABC started yelling "Drink Coke" in the middle of XYZ's chants (the chants usually followed the theme of the skits).
I'm sure the Pepsi house was mortified, but that is freaking funny.
__________________
It is all 33girl's fault. ~DrPhil
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 08-27-2007, 03:28 PM
ForeverRoses ForeverRoses is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: right here
Posts: 2,055
Quote:
Originally Posted by 33girl View Post
I'm sure the Pepsi house was mortified, but that is freaking funny.
It would have been funny if both houses were on the same tier- unfortunately the Pepsi house was struggling for numbers and the coke house was one of the strongest houses- so what the members said held allot of weight with the rushees.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 08-27-2007, 06:19 PM
Drolefille Drolefille is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 13,578
D&B's pull publicly available information I believe. But DAMN.
__________________
From the SigmaTo the K!
Polyamorous, Pansexual and Proud of it!
It Gets Better
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
What exactly is dirty rushing? HollisterDXiChi Greek Life 11 08-25-2004 11:19 AM
What is "dirty rushing"? HeidiHo Recruitment 33 07-30-2001 08:46 AM
dirty rushing Ana Recruitment 2 01-31-2000 10:03 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:06 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.