Northwestern Rush Documentary

LOVEinZTA · #1 05-25-2007, 09:56 PM

I searched to see if I could find any discussion of this video and couldn't come up with anything but if another exists please let me know. The video said it was posted to YouTube at the very end of February.

"Rushed"

TSteven · #2 05-25-2007, 10:13 PM

Wow!

GeekyPenguin · #3 05-25-2007, 10:32 PM

The comment about Theta being "blonde southern girls supporting George Bush" did make me lol.

I also thought Anonymous' comments on Facebook were very accurate - girls seem so surprised when they meet someone like them and never realize that's orchestrated.

AOII Angel · #4 05-26-2007, 12:03 AM

The documentary could have been good if it had focused more on the active with the brown t-shirt instead of the stereotypical rush chair.

ChildoftheHorn · #5 05-26-2007, 05:22 AM

Ummmm what?

I just finished watching this and saw some comment made by someone with my same username....who would have my same username?

Also, who would have it and comment on stuff at my school....not ok.. I just made an account and commented on it *germanblonde15*

I wonder if someone knew my aim and used it...hmmm...

Is there any way I could get this removed... its really hurtful to some groups.

This is aweful...I may have to change all my usernames now...b/c someone else is using it. Not Cool!

If that person is on GC, it's really the wrong thing to do...

Senusret I · #6 05-26-2007, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by PinkBabygirl10

If I saw this as a PNM or as a non-Greek parent of a PNM, I'd be skeptical on the Greek system and whether I'd want myself/my child to rush.

What's wrong with being skeptical? People SHOULD be skeptical of any collegiate activity that they have to spend significant amounts of money on AND make a lifetime commitment to.

I appreciated "Anonymous." I think she was disgruntled, perhaps jaded, and I believe those voices need to be heard, too.

I do believe the PhD they interviewed was on point.

The Greek System AS A WHOLE (Including NPHC, service/professional orgs) needs to be studied and discussed critically.

I'm glad that Allie got a bid. She seems really cool -- perhaps she can be part of the change that Anonymous would have liked to have seen in the system.

Or maybe she got jaded, too. *shrug*

ladygreek · #7 05-26-2007, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ChildoftheHorn

Ummmm what?

I just finished watching this and saw some comment made by someone with my same username....who would have my same username?

Also, who would have it and comment on stuff at my school....not ok.. I just made an account and commented on it *germanblonde15*

I wonder if someone knew my aim and used it...hmmm...

Is there any way I could get this removed... its really hurtful to some groups.

This is aweful...I may have to change all my usernames now...b/c someone else is using it. Not Cool!

If that person is on GC, it's really the wrong thing to do...

Me thinks you doth protest too much.

Senusret I · #8 05-26-2007, 08:30 AM

Did you really feel like Allie was mocking it?

I don't think having an opinion on a practice makes it "mocking." I comment on dumb stuff all the time...doesn't make me a worse Greek (at least I don't think so, others are sure to differ, lol).

ladygreek · #9 05-26-2007, 08:31 AM

great documentary!

dgdramadawg · #10 05-26-2007, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ta kala

I just watched it again and I do feel that she was. And as a I said before, from her tone of voice and the types of things she said, I got the impression she was saying these things because she wasn't if she would get a bid.

I more got the impression that she (like so many of us) thought the whole process was kind of ridiculous but was willing to go through it to see if there was a group that fit her because she totally thought sororities themselves were worth it. I don't think she was mocking the sororities at all; she was mocking the recruitment process... and the process IS kind of riduculous (it's just the best thing we've come up with thus far).

AlexMack · #11 05-26-2007, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel

The documentary could have been good if it had focused more on the active with the brown t-shirt instead of the stereotypical rush chair.

Absolutely because then we could gloss over what really happens during recruitment and pretend it's all happy sunshine and ponies land. Give me a break, anonymous was actually honest. I know for a fact that when I told a friend (who was a sigma kappa alum) what I'd loved about one chapter I visited, the same thing managed to occur at sigma kappa. Exactly what happened with the interest spiel in this documentary.
Recruitment is ridiculous and shallow and we all know it. There's no way you can get to know a person from spending 45 minutes collectively over one week, especially when you do have 300 girls coming through. Does it really matter that one woman was brave enough to come straight out and say it? It's not like they're not judging us either. As much as we tell them not to go through with preconceived notions about each chapter, it's going to happen.

I also liked Allie's cynicism because that's the way I felt during recruitment but at the same time I still wanted to be in a sorority.

Munchkin03 · #12 05-26-2007, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ta kala

I thought it was interesting how Allie would mock the recruitment process and then in the same breath express interest in giving it a shot.

Umm, hi. She's 18.

I personally really enjoyed it and wouldn't mind seeing a longer version of a documentary--maybe following several girls around, discussing the costs, etc.

Rush really is shallow, and anonymous was on-point with everything she said.

AnatraAmore · #13 05-26-2007, 01:26 PM

Agreed. I wish more girls saw this BEFORE going through recruitment... too many girls come into recruitment thinking that it is all rainbows and sunshine, and then wonder later, "Why not me? Was I not good enough?" Maybe. But more likely, you had unrealistic expectations about sororities getting to know the real you in the 5 minute conversation that we had with you. The whole process is superficial, but it's what we have. I feel like every PNM should be critical about each group they see and the process they're going through to find that group - this is a group you're about to commit yourself to for life!

I also thought that Anonymous was pretty entertaining... I know that her (Inter?)National Office probably wasn't happy about her talking about information that's typically considered ritual, but it was kind of nice to hear someone say the things that we all know are true about the sorority side of recruitment...

KappaKittyCat · #14 05-26-2007, 02:44 PM

I liked it. I can't say for certain, coming from a small school, but from what I hear from my sisters who went to big schools, everything they talked about was spot-on. And maybe this is what separates me from the masses, but I think a healthy dose of cynicism can be beneficial. I say this knowing almost for certain that many of my chapter sisters and I wouldn't have made it past first set in any house at most big schools. If any of us had gotten bids, we definitely would never have been Kappas. I can tell just by the looks on the faces of sisters from other schools. I can tell by the reaction that I got the first time I wore my letters while taking summer classes at a Big 10 school where Kappa's a top house. It was like we found a back door into our group, which can be something wonderful. So really, I just have the cynicism and the love, and they coexist, and I think I'm better off for it. I will encourage any daughter of mine, should I have children, to rush. If she goes to a school where Kappa is I'll make sure she's got her legacy letter and I'll hope beyond hope she likes Kappa and they like her. But I'm sure as hell going to teach her that rushing isn't all sunshine and puppies. And at least she'll be a little better prepared.

My potentially unpopular 2 cents.

KyleMcGuire1983 · #15 05-26-2007, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sangers

Agreed. I wish more girls saw this BEFORE going through recruitment... too many girls come into recruitment thinking that it is all rainbows and sunshine, and then wonder later, "Why not me? Was I not good enough?" Maybe. But more likely, you had unrealistic expectations about sororities getting to know the real you in the 5 minute conversation that we had with you. The whole process is superficial, but it's what we have. I feel like every PNM should be critical about each group they see and the process they're going through to find that group - this is a group you're about to commit yourself to for life!

I also thought that Anonymous was pretty entertaining... I know that her (Inter?)National Office probably wasn't happy about her talking about information that's typically considered ritual, but it was kind of nice to hear someone say the things that we all know are true about the sorority side of recruitment...

You know this is why I sometimes question the concept of "dry rush". Because while it's important to not get people who just want to party....as a member of exec in my chapter I really wish we knew in advance how each pledge would act under the influence of a party atmosphere....are they going to be creepy date rapists? will they start fights and shit talk other houses and cause rivalries?

Then again I also understand the reasoning for dry rush...

wait a minute....what on earth does what I just said have to do with this topic?