Imus Still in Hot Water

[lilbay77]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Fine, if he should be kicked off for this, Imus should be fired retroactively for making comments about executing President Bush. Or, we could let the apology stand, stop wasting time being so outraged about petty things, and be productive members of society. Hell, maybe with all that productivity we gain, somebody will invent a magic switch which allows us to turn off something we don't want to listen to or view.

Who in the hell are you to tell someone what's petty??

Every time something like this happens you can always count on the same MF's to pipe in telling people what they should shouldn't be offended about.

Originally Posted by unspokenone25

Do you even think racism exists in this country? Or is something that us colored folks have been dreaming up in our heads all these years?

Right.

[delph998]

I don't know what the consequence should be, but something should be done. This is happening too regularly now.

[delph998]

Originally Posted by lilbay77

Who in the hell are you to tell someone what's petty??

Every time something like this happens you can always count on the same MF's to pipe in telling people what they should shouldn't be offended about.

I'm right there with you, but I'm trying to be nice about it. This is off the chain.

[Sahara]

To the moronic defenders:
Making a comment about a specific person based on his actions is ENTIRELY different from making racist comments about a group of people. Just because those comments were directed at the basketball players doesn't keep it from offending all black women. duh

Anyway,
I honestly think the whole thing is a publicity stunt. I never heard of this guy before this. He knew exactly what he was saying and that it would offend black people. He just figured it was worth the risk. Even if he gets fired, someone else will snap him up and give him a bigger audience with more money.

Black people are an easy target. We have hip-hop artists who sell us out everyday. They get rich calling us N's, B's, and ho's. They show black women degrading themselves. Kids grow up seeing this and think that this is how they need to act in order to be sucessful or respected. Basically, we don't support each other (on a large scale) and we constantly and publicly degrade each other. What's stopping anyone else from doing the same?

Do you really think anything detrimental will happen to him (or the guy he was talking with)? I don't, not in the long-run.

[Sahara]

I just heard on the news that he's getting suspended for two weeks.

Clearly, not enough!

[delph998]

Originally Posted by Sahara

Black people are an easy target. We have hip-hop artists who sell us out everyday. They get rich calling us N's, B's, and ho's. They show black women degrading themselves. Kids grow up seeing this and think that this is how they need to act in order to be sucessful or respected. Basically, we don't support each other (on a large scale) and we constantly and publicly degrade each other. What's stopping anyone else from doing the same?

Do you really think anything detrimental will happen to him (or the guy he was talking with)? I don't, not in the long-run.

Sad to say, but I agree.

[lilbay77]

Originally Posted by delph998

I'm right there with you, but I'm trying to be nice about it. This is off the chain.

Oh that was nice.lol
Heck, I want shinerbock to tell me where the line is drawn between petty and offensive so that I can respond accordingly the next time this happens.

[shinerbock]

I think racism exists, I don't think you should lose your job over being a racist (even though very little indicates that Imus is a racist). I have the absolute right to say what you should and shouldn't be offended about, just as you have the right to bitch and moan about what you think should happen to someone who made an improper comment.

Where can I get some of this protected status? Its good stuff.

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by lilbay77

Oh that was nice.lol
Heck, I want shinerbock to tell me where the line is drawn between petty and offensive so that I can respond accordingly the next time this happens.

So, you can have an opinion that the situation is OUTRAGEOUS but I can't say its petty. Awesome. I should get fired for my lack of concern over this.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

I hope he keeps his show, I enjoy it.

I hope he keeps his show, too.

This comment wasn't as extreme as some people are trying to make it. I see more sexist overtones than racial undertones. I find it interesting that most of the "boycotters" are only picking up on the assumed racial thing. Imus and his colleagues make a ton of controversial statements that have nothing to do with race. Offended people should voice their opinions but understand that there are different levels of offense.

[shinerbock]

I was about to comment on the sexist theme too. What seemed like praise for the UT team (which I assume has several black players) indicated more of an assumption for how women should look than a statement about race, at least to me.

My personal belief is that there isn't much reason for black people to be outraged. Of course, this is my personal belief and I'm not black so I have no idea what sparks true emotion and what doesn't. My problem is not with people being upset, its with these demands that he be fired. I don't like that the media has to cater to such strong lobbies, either meeting their demands or facing their wrath. I know this happens in other contexts too (Disney boycott, for example), but race is such a volatile issue that there is leverage in situations like this that extends beyond simple financial motivations. People can speak with their wallets or their patronage, and that doesn't bother me. I get concerned more so when people threaten to blanketly ruin an entity's reputation and goodwill if demands aren't met, whether they're reasonable or not.

[lilbay77]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

So, you can have an opinion that the situation is OUTRAGEOUS but I can't say its petty. Awesome. I should get fired for my lack of concern over this.

Yes, when a situation like this happens, I do think its outrageous that people like to tell others how they should feel, or that it's petty.

I have major issues when someone who was not the target of the sexist or racist remark tells the targets how they should feel, or to get over it because it's petty.

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by lilbay77

Yes, when a situation like this happens, I do think its outrageous that people like to tell others how they should feel, or that it's petty.

I said it was petty. Others said it was outrageous. Now you're telling me I can't say its petty.

I'm outraged at your outrage over my thinking its petty. Now, I've satisfied the "be outraged" requirement.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

I said it was petty. Others said it was outrageous. Now you're telling me I can't say its petty.

I'm outraged at your outrage over my thinking its petty. Now, I've satisfied the "be outraged" requirement.

Yep.

I don't listen to Imus or watch him or whatever, but it's my understanding that he's an equal opportunity offender sort of like Southpark, isn't he? (Not that he's like Southpark, just the all inclusive offender part.)

Hasn't he already said offensive things many times before?

I don't know the answer to this question: but is the standard for employment in talk radio that you never say anything racist or sexist? Is the standard for stations that they don't allow people who have ever said anything racist or sexist on the air? If so, is this going to apply to everybody or just white guys?

If we want to set the bar for civilized on air communication higher, I'm all for it, but I don't like the idea of only some comments by only some people to get this intense a reaction.

[OOhsoflyDELTA#9]

Originally Posted by Sahara

To the moronic defenders:
Making a comment about a specific person based on his actions is ENTIRELY different from making racist comments about a group of people. Just because those comments were directed at the basketball players doesn't keep it from offending all black women. duh

Anyway,
I honestly think the whole thing is a publicity stunt. I never heard of this guy before this. He knew exactly what he was saying and that it would offend black people. He just figured it was worth the risk. Even if he gets fired, someone else will snap him up and give him a bigger audience with more money.

Black people are an easy target. We have hip-hop artists who sell us out everyday. They get rich calling us N's, B's, and ho's. They show black women degrading themselves. Kids grow up seeing this and think that this is how they need to act in order to be sucessful or respected. Basically, we don't support each other (on a large scale) and we constantly and publicly degrade each other. What's stopping anyone else from doing the same?

Do you really think anything detrimental will happen to him (or the guy he was talking with)? I don't, not in the long-run.

co-sign 100%....sad but true....