is there any hope?

[33girl]

Originally posted by PiKA2001
I think she meant advisor for the school's greek system. Our chapter advisor is always an alum from our chapter but the schools greek advisor is pretty much whoever the dean of students decides to hire.

No, she meant advisor for a chapter.

We've had several chapters with male advisors.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally posted by 33girl
No, she meant advisor for a chapter.

We've had several chapters with male advisors.

We had a male advisor - he was a Kappa Alpha Order. He was awesome.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by 33girl
No, she meant advisor for a chapter.

We've had several chapters with male advisors.

Dude advisors are OK. Fems are not.

-Rudey

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by Rudey
Dude advisors are OK. Fems are not.

-Rudey

"Fems" is often viewed as a deragatory slang term that isn't synonymous with females or women.

[adpiucf]

How about FemBots? You wouldn't want a FemBot for an adviser. There would be marabou and bullets everywhere.

[sororityGaL123]

i'm confused why would a woman be less qualified than a man?

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by sororityGaL123
i'm confused why would a woman be less qualified than a man?

The issue is with having nonmembers or nongreeks as primary advisors. If institutions require administrative advisors, they should be secondary advisors and the primary advisors should be more closely affiliated with the organization.

[KSigkid]

Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
The issue is with having nonmembers or nongreeks as primary advisors.

That is where I would have an issue. In my mind, a chapter advisor should always be a member, and a school's Greek advisor should be Greek. I just think it makes the whole process much easier (having dealt with a Greek and non-Greek advisor).

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by KSigkid
That is where I would have an issue. In my mind, a chapter advisor should always be a member, and a school's Greek advisor should be Greek. I just think it makes the whole process much easier (having dealt with a Greek and non-Greek advisor).

I completely agree.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by KSigkid
That is where I would have an issue. In my mind, a chapter advisor should always be a member, and a school's Greek advisor should be Greek. I just think it makes the whole process much easier (having dealt with a Greek and non-Greek advisor).

I would be upset at the idea of a non-member sitting in one of our meetings and offering us guidance. Plus the thought of a woman offering sorority-type advice on rush or anything of that nature to a fraternity is enough to make me ill.

-Rudey

[33girl]

I agree completely with all the previous posts. However, when the school says "do this or else we'll derecognize you" you don't have much choice.

Not to mention if your school isn't in a metro area, sometimes even Greek alums, period are hard to find. The number of professors who were Greek in college is not what it used to be.

[SydneyK]

Originally posted by 33girl
The number of professors who were Greek in college is not what it used to be.

Do you think this is really the case? It may be, I certainly don't know for sure. But, it may simply be that they just don't advertise it like they used to.

Example: I think one of my profs is Greek, but she's never said that. She's just really up to speed on Greek life, which is unusual for non-Greeks. She can't be the only one who keeps tight lipped about her Greek affiliation (if any). So, now my question is why?

But, this isn't really the topic of the thread.

[PhoenixAzul]

Originally posted by SydneyK
Do you think this is really the case? It may be, I certainly don't know for sure. But, it may simply be that they just don't advertise it like they used to.

Example: I think one of my profs is Greek, but she's never said that. She's just really up to speed on Greek life, which is unusual for non-Greeks. She can't be the only one who keeps tight lipped about her Greek affiliation (if any). So, now my question is why?

But, this isn't really the topic of the thread.

It took 2 years before my academic advisor told me she was Greek. She and I are really close, actually, and I was surprised when she told me about her rush experience. Her tight-lippedness stems from the fact that she's NPC and not local like us, and she sees it as part of her college experience, not part of OUR college experience. She's still sympathetic to the Greek system here though, which is great.

[Tom Earp]

Several things come to mind on the last few posts.

1. Chapters need immediate Advisors from the Organization. That is if possible of course.

2. Advisor from the Faulty (Facualty) need not be Greek. But as We have done in the Past, if there is a Member of the Facuilty who is willing and does a great job, why not Initiate them. It has worked well for us.

3. Manytimes Profs dont want their affiliations known so that it wont show favortisims. Example: My Law Prof is a TKE and I didnt know it until I asked Him to Be our Advisor and that was when I found out. Oh, this was @ 40 Years ago, but should still hold true today.

With a Faucilty Advisor, it is a Great Laieson with The ADM. and a voice for You!

If the case of a Local, It is still important to have both and while not initiated, they can be a huge factor and well needed in leadership.

[DSTCHAOS]

Is Tom really old or what?