America's Next Top Model: Cycle 5

[ZTAngel]

Originally posted by ariesrising
Most real working high fashion models are quite young, anywhere from 14-18 usually and a minimum of 5'10". My pet peeve with ANTM is so many of the contestants are older and short - they are not going to make it as a "real" model.

The show is pretty much a joke if you want to work as a high fashion model - about 80% are too short or too old to work as it is. I think if most of the ANTM contestants walked into a real agency, they would be turned down faster than hell.

Exactly. I understand that maybe they're just starting their careers but no matter how much they try, they will still never be thought of in the same way that Heidi or Giselle are thought of.

Most models start their careers in their teens. Most of them are "5'10" (with Kate Moss being one of the rare exceptions). Most of them are very thin. Most models' careers are over by the time they're 25 so how does it make sense to have a 24 year-old contestant?

[LeslieAGD]

Originally posted by ASUADPi
I'm not sure how old Yoanna or Eva was.

Eva was 19, and most of the clients she met on the show said that was a perfect age.

[Steeltrap]

Originally posted by ariesrising
Most real working high fashion models are quite young, anywhere from 14-18 usually and a minimum of 5'10". My pet peeve with ANTM is so many of the contestants are older and short - they are not going to make it as a "real" model.

The show is pretty much a joke if you want to work as a high fashion model - about 80% are too short or too old to work as it is. I think if most of the ANTM contestants walked into a real agency, they would be turned down faster than hell.

I am not sure if the actual intent is to create high fashion models -- but I also don't think the show makes it clear. They should, because there's no shame in commercial/catalog work. It pays bills.

[Eclipse]

Originally posted by Steeltrap
I am not sure if the actual intent is to create high fashion models -- but I also don't think the show makes it clear. They should, because there's no shame in commercial/catalog work. It pays bills.

I agree that the show sends mixed messages, but they do that because the "high fashion/edgy" shoots are more exciting than the regular old pictures you see in your JC Penney's or Macy's circular that comes in the Sunday paper. Think about it, when was the last time you saw a JC Penney's ad with the model naked and airbrushed or dressed like a lobster or posing with a spider or aligator?? It's just basic, straight up smiling for the camera. I don't think that would be as interesting, especially if they were just wearing basic JCP clothes!

[Sahara]

Originally posted by Marie
On a side note: I think its this fear of acknowledging race or being labeled a racist that prevents us from seriously being able to discuss race relations in this country. The term race card is fairly condesending and implies that one is not bring forth a legitimate issue/complaint, but rather looking to take advantage of the situation. Until we are able to handle the issues discussed with the respect and consideration that they deserve (rather than immediatedly dismissing them as just another black person looking to get ahead by leveraging their blackness) then many of these issues will never be solved. Sometimes I wish that we could just have a nation-wide study (perhaps a Lunch n Learn) of the serious effects of several hundred years of slavery, the rape of the black woman, the emasculation of the black man, the destruction of the black family, and over 100 years of continued discrimination. These things have affected the way that the African American community as well as the African American self-image and self-worth have been shaped and exist today. Then maybe we could think twice b4 we dismiss someone as 'playing the race card'.

I am truly offended and outraged when I hear people IGNORANTLY talking about some "race card". What the he!!?? Do they think racism is some kind of GAME???

BTW I agree with much of what christiangirl had to say. I also wanted to add that when their pictures were compared side-by-side and the judges commented on the comparison, Nik's were always better.
I don't think the winner was decided soley based on race (I don't think christiangirl was saying that either). I think they felt that Nicole was more versatile (despite the fact that she was a choke-artist).

[Sahara]

Originally posted by ASUADPi
What's weird is they why do they keep picking the older girls to compete? They always end up dropping them before the end.

I get the impression that they are trying to launch the career of someone who will be different from all the rest. That's why they allow people who are outside of the typical model caste to compete. Also, there is an interview portion of the contest. I think that's where all of the youngins get the boot. Their responses are too immature.

That's just MHO.

[ASUADPi]

Originally posted by Marie
On a side note: I think its this fear of acknowledging race or being labeled a racist that prevents us from seriously being able to discuss race relations in this country. The term race card is fairly condesending and implies that one is not bring forth a legitimate issue/complaint, but rather looking to take advantage of the situation. Until we are able to handle the issues discussed with the respect and consideration that they deserve (rather than immediatedly dismissing them as just another black person looking to get ahead by leveraging their blackness) then many of these issues will never be solved. Sometimes I wish that we could just have a nation-wide study (perhaps a Lunch n Learn) of the serious effects of several hundred years of slavery, the rape of the black woman, the emasculation of the black man, the destruction of the black family, and over 100 years of continued discrimination. These things have affected the way that the African American community as well as the African American self-image and self-worth have been shaped and exist today. Then maybe we could think twice b4 we dismiss someone as 'playing the race card'.





I think the problem is that, in our society, there are people who will use their race to their advantage. So society as a whole thinks "wtf". Does that make sense? It's like the minority is affecting the majority.

[epchick]

Have y'all seen Ya-Ya on that RadioShack commercial?


Lol...i didnt see anyone post it, so i'd thought i'd bring it up to show that some of them are doing something...lol

Originally posted by epchick
Have y'all seen Ya-Ya on that RadioShack commercial?


Lol...i didnt see anyone post it, so i'd thought i'd bring it up to show that some of them are doing something...lol

I remember reading this post earlier today and the commercial for the ugly Sprint Samsung phone from Radio Shack came on. My back was turned to the TV, but when she started speaking, I recognized that voice.

YUCK.

[rho4life]

I recognized the voice before the face when the Ya-ya ad was on too! At least SOMEONE is making money after being on the show.

[lonestaradpi]

Originally posted by epchick
Have y'all seen Ya-Ya on that RadioShack commercial?


Lol...i didnt see anyone post it, so i'd thought i'd bring it up to show that some of them are doing something...lol

I saw it also and it's been driving me crazy b/c I couldn't remember her name! I'm really bad with names. I knew that she was on ANTM, but couldn't remember anything else. Thanks epchick!

[epchick]

Originally posted by epchick
Have y'all seen Ya-Ya on that RadioShack commercial?


Lol...i didnt see anyone post it, so i'd thought i'd bring it up to show that some of them are doing something...lol

Ok, if you all thought Ya-Ya on the radioshack commercial was bad, then don't see the new Antonio Banderas movie. It doesn't look very interesting anyways (it about dancing) but there was this one girl that always looked real familiar but i couldn't place her, until YESTERDAY. Y'all wanna know who it is (even though i pretty much gave away the answer)??

Y-YA!!!!!!

[oceanphi01]

Oh well....Brooke went home.

[oceanphi01]

I'm not upset at all that Nnenna went home...I agree with some of the judges when they were saying that she's seemed kinda boring lately.

Right now, it's between Joanie and Danielle in my book.

[chitownxo]

Originally posted by oceanphi01

Right now, it's between Joanie and Danielle in my book.

Yeah, I think you're right. As much as I'm ehhh on Jade, I have to say I really liked her picture and she could *possibly* sneak into the top 2 or 3. When she's on, she's good, but when she misses, eww.