birth control

[valkyrie]

Originally posted by James
I disagree. I don't subscribe to the whole theory that girls can't get go out and get some but I know a lot of guys that do judge girls by the amount of their partners.

I remember a friend of mine that dated a girl for like 3 years and told me point blank that he would never marry her because she slept with him on the first date.

I know some of you ladies are going to howl that its unfair or that none of the guys YOU know believe that (men lie you know), but its actually a common thing among males. ITs not fair but its true.

My advice to women that are promiscious, if he is stupid enough to ask, and I don't ask personally (it being none of my business), lie.

I'm saying that these guys judge the women because the guys are insecure. I don't doubt that this kind of judgment happens ALL THE TIME.

I'll tell a guy about my past if I feel like it, and if he has less respect for me as a result, I don't want to be with him, period. I'm not going to lie about it to someone with whom I'm either in a relationship or hope to be. That's stupid.

[Lindz928]

Originally posted by valkyrie
I'm not going to lie about it to someone with whom I'm either in a relationship or hope to be. That's stupid.

ABSOLUTELY!!!! I don't and have never lied about how many people I've been with or things that I have done. I figure if you have reached a point where you WOULD lie about it, then you have some issues with yourself to work out. (Sorry for sounding a little bit self-help there. )

I always say don't do anything that you wouldn't admit to later. And that way of thinking has worked out very well for me. It has actually kept me from doing things on more than one occasion.

[cashmoney]

Originally posted by valkyrie
I'm saying that these guys judge the women because the guys are insecure. I don't doubt that this kind of judgment happens ALL THE TIME.

I'll tell a guy about my past if I feel like it, and if he has less respect for me as a result, I don't want to be with him, period. I'm not going to lie about it to someone with whom I'm either in a relationship or hope to be. That's stupid.

Hoe.

[BobbyTheDon]

Hey man. Birth Control is very important to life. I want to shake the dudes hand who invented birth control. Actually, I want to give him a high 5. Ok no I want to hug him. But he slaps me on the ass and says it was a football butt slap, I am going to give him my less expensive birth control method. Oh yeah, you all know what I'M TALKIN ABOUT.

Infact, I am surprised more women don't take that approach towards birth control. Especially if they are pissed at the guy.


BURRRRRAAAAAPPPPPP

Oh, excuse me ladies. I just burped.

[Dionysus]

Bobby are you smoking weed again?










If so, give some to me!

[RioLambdaAlum]

They need birth control for men....or at least let men have periods. Okay I'm tired so forgive my ramble but I figured why not post it.

[aephi alum]

Originally posted by RioLambdaAlum
They need birth control for men....or at least let men have periods. Okay I'm tired so forgive my ramble but I figured why not post it.

I have a better idea: Let's have the men be the ones who get pregnant.

[so damn cool]

No.

[WCUgirl]

Warning issued about the patch

By MARTHA MENDOZA, AP National Writer
1 hour, 59 minutes ago

The Food and Drug Administration warned users of the popular Ortho Evra birth control patch that they are being exposed to more hormones, and are therefore at higher risk of blood clots and other serious side effects, than previously disclosed.

Until now, regulators and patch-maker Ortho McNeil, a Johnson and Johnson subsidiary, had maintained the patch was expected to be associated with similar risks as the pill. But a strongly worded warning was added to the patch label Thursday that says women using the patch will be exposed to about 60 percent more estrogen than those using typical birth control pills.

"I wish I had known. It's quite likely I would never have used it," said Jennifer Cowperthwaite, 26, of Broad Brook, Conn., who still suffers breathing problems after a blood clot reached her lungs two years ago after using the patch.

Although most pills and the patch are loaded with the same amount of estrogen, hormones from patches go directly into the bloodstream while pills are swallowed and digested first. The result is that women using the patch have much higher levels of estrogen in their bodies.

Thursday's warning comes four months after The Associated Press reported that patch users die and suffer blood clots at a rate three times higher than women taking the pill.

Citing federal death and injury reports, the AP also found that about a dozen women, most in their late teens and early 20s, died in 2004 from blood clots believed to be related to the birth-control patch, and dozens more survived strokes and other clot-related problems.

Ortho McNeil spokeswoman Bonnie Jacobs said the warning speaks for itself and that the company has been cooperating with the FDA, which distributed the new warning to health care providers.

...

Documents released to attorneys as a result of that litigation show Ortho McNeil has been analyzing the FDA's death and injury reports, creating its own charts that document a higher rate of blood clots and deaths in association with the patch than with the pill.

In addition, an internal Ortho McNeil memo shows that the company refused, in 2003, to fund a study comparing its Ortho Evra patch to its Ortho-Cyclen pill because of concerns there was "too high a chance that study may not produce a positive result for Evra" and there was a "risk that Ortho Evra may be the same or worse than Ortho-Cyclen."

...

New published studies show that women using the patch absorb about 50 percent more estrogen than with the pill, said Dr. Leslie Miller, an associate professor of obstetrics and gynecology at the University of Washington.

When women take the pill, the medication is absorbed into the bloodstream through the digestive tract. In the process, about half of the estrogen dose is lost.

Hormone levels in women on the pill are highest one or two hours after taking it, Miller said. Twelve hours later, estrogen levels are quite low, meaning the body is not exposed to high levels of estrogen 24 hours a day.

But the patch causes higher estrogen levels since delivery of medication continues all day. Those elevated levels may be high enough to increase some women's risk of blood clots, Miller said.

The rest can be found at the link above.

[NinjaPoodle]

Originally posted by AXiD670
Warning issued about the patch

By MARTHA MENDOZA, AP National Writer
1 hour, 59 minutes ago

The Food and Drug Administration warned users of the popular Ortho Evra birth control patch that they are being exposed to more hormones, and are therefore at higher risk of blood clots and other serious side effects, than previously disclosed.

Until now, regulators and patch-maker Ortho McNeil, a Johnson and Johnson subsidiary, had maintained the patch was expected to be associated with similar risks as the pill. But a strongly worded warning was added to the patch label Thursday that says women using the patch will be exposed to about 60 percent more estrogen than those using typical birth control pills.

"I wish I had known. It's quite likely I would never have used it," said Jennifer Cowperthwaite, 26, of Broad Brook, Conn., who still suffers breathing problems after a blood clot reached her lungs two years ago after using the patch.

Although most pills and the patch are loaded with the same amount of estrogen, hormones from patches go directly into the bloodstream while pills are swallowed and digested first. The result is that women using the patch have much higher levels of estrogen in their bodies.

Thursday's warning comes four months after The Associated Press reported that patch users die and suffer blood clots at a rate three times higher than women taking the pill.

Citing federal death and injury reports, the AP also found that about a dozen women, most in their late teens and early 20s, died in 2004 from blood clots believed to be related to the birth-control patch, and dozens more survived strokes and other clot-related problems.

Ortho McNeil spokeswoman Bonnie Jacobs said the warning speaks for itself and that the company has been cooperating with the FDA, which distributed the new warning to health care providers.

...

Documents released to attorneys as a result of that litigation show Ortho McNeil has been analyzing the FDA's death and injury reports, creating its own charts that document a higher rate of blood clots and deaths in association with the patch than with the pill.

In addition, an internal Ortho McNeil memo shows that the company refused, in 2003, to fund a study comparing its Ortho Evra patch to its Ortho-Cyclen pill because of concerns there was "too high a chance that study may not produce a positive result for Evra" and there was a "risk that Ortho Evra may be the same or worse than Ortho-Cyclen."

...

New published studies show that women using the patch absorb about 50 percent more estrogen than with the pill, said Dr. Leslie Miller, an associate professor of obstetrics and gynecology at the University of Washington.

When women take the pill, the medication is absorbed into the bloodstream through the digestive tract. In the process, about half of the estrogen dose is lost.

Hormone levels in women on the pill are highest one or two hours after taking it, Miller said. Twelve hours later, estrogen levels are quite low, meaning the body is not exposed to high levels of estrogen 24 hours a day.

But the patch causes higher estrogen levels since delivery of medication continues all day. Those elevated levels may be high enough to increase some women's risk of blood clots, Miller said.

The rest can be found at the link above.

[ADqtPiMel]

Glad I went off the patch after a month.

[Xylochick216]

I think I may be switching back to the damn pill... I HATE taking that damn thing, but my doctor said it's my only option since I'm on it for medical purposes, too. Ugh.

[AchtungBaby80]

Yeah, I was wondering that exact thing about the patch...whether or not it'd be more risky considering you get a continual dose of hormones 24 hours a day. I never really considered using it because I feel more secure taking a pill than trusting this thing to stay stuck on my body, but every other girl I know was raving about how they couldn't wait to try it.

[Xylochick216]

Originally posted by AchtungBaby80
Yeah, I was wondering that exact thing about the patch...whether or not it'd be more risky considering you get a continual dose of hormones 24 hours a day. I never really considered using it because I feel more secure taking a pill than trusting this thing to stay stuck on my body, but every other girl I know was raving about how they couldn't wait to try it.

I just HATE taking pills. I feel sick whenever I take one of any size, and I can't remember to take them, even when I leave them on my toothbrush. The patch has never once fallen off of me. In fact, sometimes I have issues getting it off. It was a million times easier for me..... darn it!

[kstar]

So glad that I got the shot. No worries about BC for 3 months, no worries about over medicating.