Do You...

[The Original Ape]

trust the judicial system in this country? Considering the outcomes of the high profile cases over the last several years, would you expect JUSTICE if you were a defendent in a case?

[TonyB06]

Good question, OA.

In this country, I don't trust any system totally--and I'm not a conspiracy theorist at all. We know personally many distinguished jurists and attorneys among the bruhs, as well as others of good will who ably serve in the judicial system, so it's hard to just say "no." Yet, it's naive to not recognize that political/legal systems are run by people, subject to corruption and influence by money and power, to some degree.

I'd expect justice were I a defendent cause I'd know I didn't do the isht. Besides, my stellar defense team of SummerChild, Kimmie1913, joined by junior associates SkeePHIstiAKAte and Exquisite would get me off.....they betta, as much $$ as they cost me.

[PHAShriner/1906]

Hotep Sisters & Brothers. Brother Ape, I TRUST the KKKriminal Justice will NEVER fully benefit JUST-US of whom I am concerned with.

The KKKriminal Justice system has a wicked history that permeates deception, fraud, mayhem all under the pseudo-promotion of multiKKKulturalism.

As we embark upon JUNETEENTH tomorrow MEMBERS OF THE TRIBE MUST REMEMBER THE ALPHA-HOLOCAUST. The ALPHA HUMAN of whom was created by the MOST HIGH (P.B.U.H) has been under attack throughout decades due to GENETIC GREATNESS, DOMINANCE & SUPERIORITY.

The DEVIL knows this and uses strategic planning & tactics to keep US MEMBERS OF THE TRIBE from knowing this! It matters not if it in terms of centuries, decades, years, months, hours, minutes, or seconds, because the WICkkkEDDEVIL (and h/she is NOT underground) continues to do EVERYTHING possible to prevent US MEMBERS OF THE TRIBE from knowing how GREAT we truly are! Instead, US MEMBERS OF THE TRIBE are TRICkkkED into cosigning a WICKED legal system of KKKanonism.

The ALPHA-HOLOCAUST is the scope of which the JUST-US system has been able to flourish w/deception, fraud, mayhem being of a fair DEMOkkkRACY.

The BLACK MAN & BLACK WOMAN are the ALPHAS of the MOST HIGH'S splendid creation! Let US never forget! The runt and mutated genetic ridden ANIMALS are of the "OTHER" and have NEVER meant for US to benefit from THEIR so-called "KKKanon-Law" mandated KKKriminal Just-US system.

In closing, the only TRUST I have is in the RESILIENCE of the FIRST MAN & FIRST WOMAN to overcome wicked overtures of the United Snakkkes of AmeriKKKa to use and supply AGENTS & PLANTS like the "THOM-ASSES & The New Bush Mammie of the Court" to make US content and believing of the legal system.

I will NEVER trust the LEGAL SYSTEM! Why? THE ALPHA HOLOCAUST!

[mccoyred]

Unfortunately, NO.

When the system went from "a jury of your peers" to a "fair and impartial jury" (due to a judicial ruling, I think), I knew that it was doomed. People, by nature, are NOT fair and impartial otherwise we wouldn't have words like 'discrimination', 'prejudice' and 'partisan' in the legal vocabulary.

[The Original Ape]

Originally posted by mccoyred
Unfortunately, NO.

When the system went from "a jury of your peers" to a "fair and impartial jury" (due to a judicial ruling, I think), I knew that it was doomed. People, by nature, are NOT fair and impartial otherwise we wouldn't have words like 'discrimination', 'prejudice' and 'partisan' in the legal vocabulary.

interesting.

[The Original Ape]

Originally posted by PHAShriner/1906
Hotep Sisters & Brothers. Brother Ape, I TRUST the KKKriminal Justice will NEVER fully benefit JUST-US of whom I am concerned with.

The KKKriminal Justice system has a wicked history that permeates deception, fraud, mayhem all under the pseudo-promotion of multiKKKulturalism.

As we embark upon JUNETEENTH tomorrow MEMBERS OF THE TRIBE MUST REMEMBER THE ALPHA-HOLOCAUST. The ALPHA HUMAN of whom was created by the MOST HIGH (P.B.U.H) has been under attack throughout decades due to GENETIC GREATNESS, DOMINANCE & SUPERIORITY.

The DEVIL knows this and uses strategic planning & tactics to keep US MEMBERS OF THE TRIBE from knowing this! It matters not if it in terms of centuries, decades, years, months, hours, minutes, or seconds, because the WICkkkEDDEVIL (and h/she is NOT underground) continues to do EVERYTHING possible to prevent US MEMBERS OF THE TRIBE from knowing how GREAT we truly are! Instead, US MEMBERS OF THE TRIBE are TRICkkkED into cosigning a WICKED legal system of KKKanonism.

The ALPHA-HOLOCAUST is the scope of which the JUST-US system has been able to flourish w/deception, fraud, mayhem being of a fair DEMOkkkRACY.

The BLACK MAN & BLACK WOMAN are the ALPHAS of the MOST HIGH'S splendid creation! Let US never forget! The runt and mutated genetic ridden ANIMALS are of the "OTHER" and have NEVER meant for US to benefit from THEIR so-called "KKKanon-Law" mandated KKKriminal Just-US system.

In closing, the only TRUST I have is in the RESILIENCE of the FIRST MAN & FIRST WOMAN to overcome wicked overtures of the United Snakkkes of AmeriKKKa to use and supply AGENTS & PLANTS like the "THOM-ASSES & The New Bush Mammie of the Court" to make US content and believing of the legal system.

I will NEVER trust the LEGAL SYSTEM! Why? THE ALPHA HOLOCAUST!

interesting.

[TheEpitome1920]

Originally posted by TonyB06
Good question, OA.

In this country, I don't trust any system totally--and I'm not a conspiracy theorist at all. We know personally many distinguished jurists and attorneys among the bruhs, as well as others of good will who ably serve in the judicial system, so it's hard to just say "no." Yet, it's naive to not recognize that political/legal systems are run by people, subject to corruption and influence by money and power, to some degree.

I agree. I think its hard to trust anything that is run completely by people. We all know that people bring their baggage into any insitution thus making it anything but 100%.

[RACooper]

PHAShriner/1906 while I respect your freedom to express your opinion on the US justice and legal systems... could you please do it without resorting to racist ranting?-> specifically the racial supremacist crap calling all others "The runt and mutated genetic ridden ANIMALS"

[PHAShriner/1906]

Hotep Brothers. Mr. Cooper, I so choose to exercise MY freedom to communicate with MY PEOPLE. I so pressume you to so do the same for yours despite their PROVEN GENETIC SHORTCOMINGS.

In that BLACK KARMA of a GREAT BLACK ATTORNEY Johnnie "C" I shall submit to you the following: "what is TRUE can often times upset YOU!"

I will NEVER backdown from my FREEDOM, FERVENCY & ZEAL to state the TRUTH. If you take offense to such do yourself a favor and CLICK IT rather than READ IT.

GOD BLESS AFRIKA!

[ladygreek]

Originally posted by RACooper
PHAShriner/1906 while I respect your freedom to express your opinion on the US justice and legal systems... could you please do it without resorting to racist ranting?-> specifically the racial supremacist crap calling all others "The runt and mutated genetic ridden ANIMALS"

Come on RA. Let's not do this again. He is speaking his mind in his own frat's forum. If you don't like what he ways, put him on ignore.

[RACooper]

Originally posted by ladygreek
Come on RA. Let's not do this again. He is speaking his mind in his own frat's forum. If you don't like what he ways, put him on ignore.

Look I have no problem with him stating an opinion about politics, race relations, school, the economy, whatever - as long as he leaves the racist crap out of it (sorry racially hateful or offensive material for those who ascribe to the theory that power dictacts what's racist and what isn't).

The only thing is his statement/rant that I objected to was the one line calling all "non-blacks" runts or genetic mutate ridden (do get that part) animals <sorry but I don't see how that can't be seen as racially offensive to the rest of "us" here on GC>

[Moammar Ghadafi]

Distinguished Men of Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc. I bring forth greetings in the name of the beneficent who I am blessed to be a student of. As Salam Allaikum. I am laughing as I am being fed daits by one of my wives. Alphamen, your brother PHAShriner is so much wiser and superior than that Canadian Goose RACooper.

I wonder why it is that the Goose who has flown over the Koo-Koo nest and has continued to show his inferiority complex still attempts to debate with your Alpha brother PHAShriner. Lastly, Ladygreek appears to be a strong minded sister. Like all of the Blackwomen in the world we Blackmen know she is beautiful too. Oh well, I am about to go and resume eating some more fruit. It is that time of the week, and I have just obtained a fresh shipment of YOHIMBE.

YOU are ALL (TRIBE MEMBERS ONLY) still invited to my country. Our JUSTICE SYSTEM seems to work quite swiftly too. RACooper, you are NOT to ever set foot on my land. Men of Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc. I continue to be desirous of being granted the honor to seek consideration for membership into your great organization. Take care Blackmen.

P.S I am a keen observer and quick learner too. I have paid attention to how Ladygreek asked your brother PHAShriner to post short paragraphs to help with the reading of his cumbersome posts. Feisty Blackwoman she is. I like that! I might make her one of my wives someday.

[ladygreek]

Originally posted by RACooper
Look I have no problem with him stating an opinion about politics, race relations, school, the economy, whatever - as long as he leaves the racist crap out of it (sorry racially hateful or offensive material for those who ascribe to the theory that power dictacts what's racist and what isn't).

The only thing is his statement/rant that I objected to was the one line calling all "non-blacks" runts or genetic mutate ridden (do get that part) animals <sorry but I don't see how that can't be seen as racially offensive to the rest of "us" here on GC>

I understand what you are saying, but this is not the place for YOU to comment. Now if it was in Greek Life, yes. Your frat's forum, yes. But here, no.

This is his frat's forum and if his bruhs find it offensive, then let them be the ones to check him. Otherwise, like I said, put him on ignore.

He's made it clear many times what his beliefs are, and chastising him is not going to change that.

[ladygreek]

Originally posted by Moammar Ghadafi
P.S I am a keen observer and quick learner too. I have paid attention to how Ladygreek asked your brother PHAShriner to post short paragraphs to help with the reading of his cumbersome posts. Feisty Blackwoman she is. I like that! I might make her one of my wives someday.

LOL, you couldn't handle this Black woman!

[RACooper]

Originally posted by ladygreek
I understand what you are saying, but this is not the place for YOU to comment. Now if it was in Greek Life, yes. Your frat's forum, yes. But here, no.

This is his frat's forum and if his bruhs find it offensive, then let them be the ones to check him. Otherwise, like I said, put him on ignore.

He's made it clear many times what his beliefs are, and chastising him is not going to change that.

So I should only comment on something that is racial offensive or wrong if it falls within my Fraternity's forum or on a more public forum such as Greek Life? I'm sorry but I see that as part and parcel of a system (society or otherwise) that would encourage division, conflict, inequality, or injustice - something pertinent to this thread...

In an early post there was outrage over the racially loaded language and miscarriage of justice in Linden Texas - now would we as outsiders be wrong to comment or do something in that case because we aren't members of that community? While it is a very, very loose paralell, I do see it as somewhat the same - in that an "outsider" can comment on something that they see as blatantly wrong and offensive.

The final point is something that PHA/Shriner1906 would agree with - as long as people sit by and do nothing to effect change when they see wrong, then the wrong will continue... this thread discussing the relative trust of the US judical and justice system is a fine example of that - we can all agree that the courts are prejudiced or imbalanced to some degree or another, but not to the degree that they where a even quarter-century ago... people have been trying (and still are) to effect change, and eliminate the unequal justice metted out.

I know he has made clear what his beliefs are, and to be perfectly honest some I do find interesting to some degree (his Moammar Ghadafi alter-ego is slighty amusing even)- and I would encourage him to continue to express and debate tham with others... however I also feel that it is possible fro him to express his beliefs without using racially offensive (or loaded) language or rhetoric.