Toronto, Canada Delta Kappa Epsilon Drug Raid Reported

[exlurker]

The June 28, 2008 Globe and Mail story is on its web site:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl....wfratraid0628

Brief excerpts:

Toronto police officers seized more than $126,000 in illegal drugs and charged two men with trafficking during a raid on a fraternity house near the University of Toronto late Friday.

Uniform and plainclothes officers had to force their way into the Delta Kappa Epsilon . . . house when the occupants refused to answer the door, police said. Some tried to escape out a back door but were nabbed by officers waiting outside.

Police seized more than $126,000-worth of Ketamine and cocaine as well as . . . psilocybin . . . .

The Toronto Sun has a similar but not identical story:

http://www.torontosun.com/News/Toron...8/6015586.html

[CrackerBarrel]

Well... they were having fun on their way out. Shrooms and cat tranquilizers are relatively cheap, so that was f***-ton of blow they had.

A kilo is probably somewhere between $20-30k. 4 or 5 kilos of coke at a fraternity house, damn.

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel

Well... they were having fun on their way out. Shrooms and cat tranquilizers are relatively cheap, so that was f***-ton of blow they had.

A kilo is probably somewhere between $20-30k. 4 or 5 kilos of coke at a fraternity house, damn.

I'm pretty sure Ketamine is horse tranquilizers.

I don't know, never messed with the stuff.

[AGDee]

I could say something about a certain famous DKE with a former drug problem who is now POTUS, however.. instead I'll ask the question... Do we know if these guys are even DKEs? It says one was a 29 y/o alumni and it just says the other is a current U of T president. I know that a lot of chapters rent out space during the summer term and sometimes don't have any members living in the house.

[exlurker]

Originally Posted by AGDee

I could say something about a certain famous DKE with a former drug problem who is now POTUS, however.. instead I'll ask the question... Do we know if these guys are even DKEs? It says one was a 29 y/o alumni and it just says the other is a current U of T president. I know that a lot of chapters rent out space during the summer term and sometimes don't have any members living in the house.

AGDee, good question. If I'm reading things correctly, according to a follow-up story on the Globe and Mail's site, a person from Deke international HQ said the men arrested are in Deke's database. The same story reports that some people at the house in Toronto indicated that the people arrested aren't in DKE.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...ional/Ontario/

Personally I heart ambiguity and lack of agreement, up to a point.

Excerpts:

. . . Mr. Easlick [identified as the executive director of Deke] confirmed the two accused are members of Delta Kappa Epsilon, saying they are in the fraternity's database. . . .

Outside the . . . Delta Kappa Epsilon mansion . . . two young men moved chairs and swept the stairs. The men, who would not give their names, said the two accused aren't members of the fraternal society.

[Firefruze]

I thought this was going to be a slap on the wrists for the DKE's and it would just fade away but this is turning into day 3 that its been making news! This whole situation makes me really shiver as the thought of loosing my chapter something I care deeply about because of a few fuck ups is pretty disturbing. My thoughts and condolences to the brothers at this house who had absolutely nothing to do with this but are being catapulted into the situation.

My concern now is the greek system in Toronto. As a member of a fraternity on campus I'm fearing that this is turning into an issue against us and that not only will students completely avoid us but that in an environment that we're already not really accepted in ,that we're going to be clamped down upon .

[touchmybikini]

I was surprised to learn that DKE got busted for something like that, in fact I am shocked. I read somewhere that the drugs weren't even secluded, like underneath some brother's bed, in the far right room typa thing, the whole stash was out in the open for the police to come in and find.
What I can say is, they should be more careful when rushing their brothers because not every Greek has their frat's best intentions at heart, and not everyone realizes that once they get involved in their scams in the house, they get their entire frat involved as well. Do what you gotta do, but do it off the frat property.
Asides from that, they truly are a good group of guys and it's a shame that their rep (along with the reps of other Greeks) is now in jeopardy. I've read some really negative feedback from the non-Greek community on campus in other forums, where they really put down fratland, saying how they're "just like any other frat" and comments such as "what did you expect, I'm not surprised" were made. So it is a shame that the event strengthened the negative stereotype. Does anyone know whether the DKE, Alpha Phi chapter is most likely to get shut down after this, or what?

[CrackerBarrel]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

I'm pretty sure Ketamine is horse tranquilizers.

I don't know, never messed with the stuff.

Doesn't change the fact that it's 4 kilos of coke. Just damn.

[Taualumna]

This isn't the first time DKE at U of T has had issues.

[Elephant Walk]

Impressive, to be true.

[Enigmatic1111]

First off it isn't a current DKE president, they're just mentioning the alums of DKE.

"Uniform and plainclothes officers had to force their way into the Delta Kappa Epsilon . . . house when the occupants refused to answer the door, police said. Some tried to escape out a back door but were nabbed by officers waiting outside."

That is definitely an exaggeration of what happened.

[Taualumna]

Question: Some newspapers are including DKE's chapter designation in their reports. In the Toronto Star, for example, they're calling it Delta Kappa Epsilon Alpha Phi, not Delta Kappa Epsilon, Alpha Phi chapter.

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by Taualumna

Question: Some newspapers are including DKE's chapter designation in their reports. In the Toronto Star, for example, they're calling it Delta Kappa Epsilon Alpha Phi, not Delta Kappa Epsilon, Alpha Phi chapter.

How is that a question?

[Taualumna]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

How is that a question?

Meant to ask if it is proper DKE procedure.

[ChrisAnders]

First of all let me clarify a couple of things: The raid was a cocaine trafficking raid with an unknown amount of cocaine being found(supposedly 125,000 worth, which I think is ridiculous because no one knew about the cocaine and if no one knew about the cocaine why would anyone carry enough to make 100 grand with no one interested in buying it). The amounts of Ketamine and Mushrooms were minuscule and only for personal use. One explanation is that the under cover police baited one of the arrested individuals into producing as much cocaine as he could for a transaction and then the raid went down. Then all of the sudden this large amount of cocaine became a piece of stationary in the house and the individual responsible for the transaction became the owner of that massive amount of coke. The article has an inaccuracy. The police did not knock, they charged the front door, even though they need to knock and ask for access showing the search warrant. I guess they must have assumed that armed fraternity gunmen were holding millions of dollars worth of cocaine were going to barricade themselves and take hostages....not. There were witnesses standing directly outside of the main entrance when the raid happened and their testimony directly contradicts the media reports of a lawful entrance. but...they had plain clothes officers inside the building at the time of the raid and knew by name exactly who they wanted to arrest. But then again there was no arrest warrant, only a search warrant for the main floor of the building. The raid was also performed illegally on the residences of the second and third floor of the building. Some of the victims were in their rooms when police stormed their rooms told them to get on the floor and handcuffed them. Everyone in the building was gathered in a room on the main floor under a thing called investigative detention, where everyone was I.D.ed and asked questions for about an hour. A witness described the experience as shocking, "having police barge into your room and being told to lay on the floor while being handcuffed is not my idea of an ideal Friday night." Many of the residents, who are students are shocked and in disbelief that there was any cocaine dealing in the house. Which I personally find agreeable since I frequent the house quite often and share a couple of beers with my DKE friend. I'm not a fan of hippie stuff like police brutality and media lies but the shit that went down in the DKE house and the media reports thereafter are a bunch of bullshit meant to justify the raid and portray Delta Kappa Epsilon and the fellow fraternities and sororities as the stereotypical uneducated drunkards. Hope this stuff doesn't bring you guys down, you rock!