Fifty things you didn't know about John McCain

[PhiGam]

http://www.experienceproject.com/uw.php?e=154369

McCain is 5'7" tall

After six weeks in the prison hospital, his hair turned its now-famous white.

On Christmas Eve 1968, the North Vietnamese staged a false church service as a media event for photographers and film cameras. McCain famously defined his captors instructions to be quiet and loudly yelled 'Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck you, you son of a biiitch!' and flipped off the camera whenever it was pointed at him.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by PhiGam

http://www.experienceproject.com/uw.php?e=154369

McCain is 5'7" tall

After six weeks in the prison hospital, his hair turned its now-famous white.

On Christmas Eve 1968, the North Vietnamese staged a false church service as a media event for photographers and film cameras. McCain famously defined his captors instructions to be quiet and loudly yelled 'Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck you, you son of a biiitch!' and flipped off the camera whenever it was pointed at him.

I guess that explains why his arms look short...heh....

After flying 22 more bombing missions without incident, McCain's plane was hit over central Hanoi. He broke both arms and one leg after being hit and ejecting from his plane.

17 thru 34(?) is all about him in Vietnam....and there are so many stories similar to his...why would that blogger think that it's something we need to know?

Bottom line is...since it happens to so many more (many of lesser rank) why should I care about it happening to McCain?

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

I guess that explains why his arms look short...heh....

After flying 22 more bombing missions without incident, McCain's plane was hit over central Hanoi. He broke both arms and one leg after being hit and ejecting from his plane.

17 thru 34(?) is all about him in Vietnam....and there are so many stories similar to his...why would that blogger think that it's something we need to know?

Bottom line is...since it happens to so many more (many of lesser rank) why should I care about it happening to McCain?

Because John McCain is the one running for President.

This list is supposed to appeal to certain people, just as every "list" for every candidate is supposed to appeal to certain people. Make the candidates look more human. Appeal to the masses who admire things beyond a candidate's platform.

Three examples of lists that include interesting facts with other facts that some may not care about. None of them include military service, of course:

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/ar...obamafacts.htm
http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/...lle-obama.html
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/ar...intonfacts.htm

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Because John McCain is the one running for President.

This list is supposed to appeal to certain people, just as every "list" for every candidate is supposed to appeal to certain people. Make the candidates look more human. Appeal to the masses who admire things beyond a candidate's platform.

Three examples of lists that include interesting facts with other facts that some may not care about. None of them include military service, of course:

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/ar...obamafacts.htm
http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/...lle-obama.html
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/ar...intonfacts.htm

Oh...well I guess I don't give a shyte about McCain's military career then...go figger.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Oh...well I guess I don't give a shyte about McCain's military career then...go figger.

And there's your bias.

I'm sure you'd be all over a list of Obama's top Baskin Robbins flavors. Not like every human doesn't have top ice cream flavors, so what's the big deal.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

And there's your bias.

I'm sure you'd be all over a list of Obama's top Baskin Robbins flavors. Not like every human doesn't have top ice cream flavors, so what's the big deal.

No...not really.

But..those 50 things about McCain doesn't really give me a compelling argument as to why i should vote for him, what issues he plans on dealing with and so on...yes...he was a guy that had some really FUBAR situations....and?

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

And there's your bias.

I'm sure you'd be all over a list of Obama's top Baskin Robbins flavors. Not like every human doesn't have top ice cream flavors, so what's the big deal.

If there was a list like that about Obama, there would be about 100000 threads in this forum talking about it. I'm by no means a McCain fan, but the fanatical following behind Obama is unreal.

Some people will find this information useful when they vote - some won't. I really don't see what the big problem is with this list. It's a qualification on the resume, like anything else.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Oh...well I guess I don't give a shyte about McCain's military career then...go figger.

The fact that the President is also Commander-in-Chief of the US Armed Forces means that Military experience (or lack thereof) is something relevent to consider when making a Presidential vote.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

The fact that the President is also Commander-in-Chief of the US Armed Forces means that Military experience (or lack thereof) is something relevent to consider when making a Presidential vote.

Not really....

Let's see...Clinton and Reagan really didn't have any military experience, for that matter, neither did FDR...

Bush's military record is negligible...

yet, they made it in office and all of the above mentioned had 2 terms.

[KDAngel]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Oh...well I guess I don't give a shyte about McCain's military career then...go figger.

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Not really....

Let's see...Clinton and Reagan really didn't have any military experience, for that matter, neither did FDR...

Bush's military record is negligible...

yet, they made it in office and all of the above mentioned had 2 terms.

I don't mind if you don't care about McCain and his career, but you act so dismissive to the idea of those with military background. The global political climate has changed, and with things in their current state of play, military know-how is very important. It doesn't mean that you must have served in the military, but to act like it's a detriment to the position of Commander-in-Chief (the only constitutionally bound duty of the President) and you're sorely mistaken.

[Leslie Anne]

I actually do think military experience is important, though not altogether necessary.

What I found more interesting was #44: McCain's marriage began falling apart, and he had several extramarital affairs, which he blamed on selfishness and immaturity.

Funny how the GOP keeps moving that line after every election.

[PeppyGPhiB]

Though I won't be voting for McCain, I respect his service (military and Congress) tremendously and appreciate his military knowledge through experience. That said, I think this country better start getting used to presidents who have no military service; the rising generations in this country have had no Civil War/WWI/WWII/Korea/Vietnam - no draft or obligation to serve its country in battle. Instead, our young people go to college, and graduate school. I think we can expect to see far more lawyers and businessmen/women as our political leaders (not that they aren't already, but I think military service is becoming an increasingly rarer choice), and I'm OK with that. I think it's unrealistic for us to expect one person to satisfy all the "requirements" so many seek in a president - someone who's been to war, can write and argue policy, diplomatically discuss trade/business and human rights issues with foreign leaders, give a good press conference, and be REALLY LIKEABLE (I would trade this one for intelligence, but for many Americans it's apparently #1).

I'm comfortable leaving the military expertise to career military command, and choosing a president with the smarts to know what they don't know in this regard.

[TexasWSP]

Daemon, from some of the things I've read lately....is there a reason you are so casually dismissive of his military career? Whether or not you like the guy (I like him as a person, not so much as a candidate...along with the other two fails), I think his service and actions are something to be deeply respected. The fact that you would say you don't give a shit about his military career is a little disturbing to be completely honest.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by TexasWSP

Daemon, from some of the things I've read lately....is there a reason you are so casually dismissive of his military career? Whether or not you like the guy (I like him as a person, not so much as a candidate...along with the other two fails), I think his service and actions are something to be deeply respected. The fact that you would say you don't give a shit about his military career is a little disturbing to be completely honest.

Mac, as I have said before, I am more concerned as to what he plans to do in the here and now. I am tired of hearing about him being a POW and what he suffered thru...that is history.

And so far, some of those gaffes that he has had don't play too well with all the military accolades he has been given.

So as it stands for me, that was then, you were in a bad situation, fine...you were called a hero for making it...fine...

BUT...

what do you plan on right now doing about:

- The War

- Rising costs of living

- Declining Education

- Dealing with Foreign powers

- Immigration

- Global warming

- Trade and commerce


That's what is important, not how badly he was treated in 'nam.

I have an uncle that can tell you the same stories...

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Mac, as I have said before, I am more concerned as to what he plans to do in the here and now. I am tired of hearing about him being a POW and what he suffered thru...that is history.

Under this logic, literally anything can be dismissed as "history" because it's not here-and-now . . . everything from Senate experience ("she's acting on her own, so legislative body experience is just that . . . history") to education ("You really think he remembers all those Harvard classes from decades ago?") to doing blow off a stripper's ass ("Let's talk about today, not the past - I'm tired of hearing about him doing blow off hookers.").