Woman who killed officer pays traffic fines

[jon1856]

Woman who killed officer pays traffic fines
ELLICOTT CITY, Md. (AP) - The Howard County State's Attorney's Office says a driver who struck and killed a county police officer last year has paid her traffic fines.
Prosecutors say Stephanie Grissom of Columbia paid $310 in fines for speeding and negligent driving. She also received three points on her driving record.....
http://www.wtopnews.com/?nid=598&sid=1399706
http://www.abc2news.com/news/local/s...5-159891758388

Where is Rev Al??
Why not shut this city down as well?

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by jon1856

Where is Rev Al??
Why not shut this city down as well?

Oh my god, Jon, what a ridiculous analogy. There are innumerable cases of car "accidents" where people have been killed (civilian and officer) where the punishment does not seem equitable and people seem to get away with little or no penalty even when a life has been claimed.

This woman driving 16 miles an hour over the speed limit and not seeing or steering around or stopping in time to not hit the officer (who stepped out in front of her) is NOTHING like 5 officers mowing down an unarmed man in a hail of 50 bullets, including a reloading.

Sounds like this revision to police policy in that area that trained their officers to step in front of speeding vehicles in LONG overdue:

Since the Corporal’s death, the Department suspended the use of the Step Out method on roadways that exceed 35 miles per hour. All personnel will undergo extensive traffic training beginning this month.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

Oh my god, Jon, what a ridiculous analogy. There are innumerable cases of car "accidents" where people have been killed (civilian and officer) where the punishment does not seem equitable and people seem to get away with little or no penalty even when a life has been claimed.

This woman driving 16 miles an hour over the speed limit and not seeing or steering around or stopping in time to not hit the officer (who stepped out in front of her) is NOTHING like 5 officers mowing down an unarmed man in a hail of 50 bullets, including a reloading.

Sounds like this revision to police policy in that area that trained their officers to step in front of speeding vehicles in LONG overdue:

$310.00 for a life?
"No justice, No peace" would seem to fit this rather well.

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by jon1856

I was not, until it was brought up.
At least not in this thread.

Originally Posted by jon1856

Where is Rev Al??
Why not shut this city down as well?

Originally Posted by jon1856

"No justice, No peace" would seem to fit this rather well.

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[jon1856]

^^^^You missed one:

Originally Posted by jon1856

I never said anything about the current situation in NYC.
Track record.

[RU OX Alum]

how much training do they need to not walk out in front of speeding cars?

[nittanyalum]

Jon, just in my personal life, I have known my friend's father who was killed when a woman who was reaching down to pick up a cassette tape (ok, it was a while ago) from the floor of her car backed over him while he was jogging and she got nothing; my brother's best friend's father was killed when a driver ran a red light and t-boned his car, no major penalty; a woman I know was killed when yet another driver ran a red light, there were suspicions she was under the influence of something, and yet still, got off with minor violations; the father of family friends was killed when he pulled over on the side of the highway to check something wrong under the hood, when he came around the front of the car to get to the door, another driver clipped him and killed him, nothing happened to the other driver.

Vehicular accidents unfortunately happen all day, every day. The officer stepped out in front of a speeding car and it had a tragic ending. Still, this is NOTHING even remotely similar to the NY situation.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

Jon, just in my personal life, I have known my friend's father who was killed when a woman who was reaching down to pick up a cassette tape (ok, it was a while ago) from the floor of her car backed over him while he was jogging and she got nothing; my brother's best friend's father was killed when a driver ran a red light and t-boned his car, no major penalty; a woman I know was killed when yet another driver ran a red light, there were suspicions she was under the influence of something, and yet still, got off with minor violations; the father of family friends was killed when he pulled over on the side of the highway to check something wrong under the hood, when he came around the front of the car to get to the door, another driver clipped him and killed him, nothing happened to the other driver.

Vehicular accidents unfortunately happen all day, every day. The officer stepped out in front of a speeding car and it had a tragic ending. Still, this is NOTHING even remotely similar to the NY situation.

I never said anything about the current situation in NYC.
Track record.

[nittanyalum]

The winky face doesn't change the fact that yes, you were, with the statements in your other posts.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

The winky face doesn't change the fact that yes, you were, with the statements in your other posts.

I was not, until it was brought up.
At least not in this thread.

A $310.00 traffic fine plus points for killing anyone strikes me the wrong way.
I was not on the GJ that did not indite the driver. One can only wonder what they
heard or did not hear for them to make their decision.
And no one seems to have jumped up and asked why.

[KSig RC]

We overuse the term "accident" with reference to vehicles (most auto crashes had at least some fault that makes "accident" kind of misleading), but some things in life are just accidents or mistakes that, while having dire consequences, do not rise to the level of unlawful behavior or negligence.

Life happens. There is no need to shoehorn everything into a racial or anti-hypocritical context that may or may not exist - keep the triangular pegs in the triangular holes.

I'll even posit that attitudes like Jon's are kind of ironic - it's an overreaction meant to highlight an entity's tendency to overreact or get on the soapbox. Congratulations! Now you're a hypocrite too!

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

We overuse the term "accident" with reference to vehicles (most auto crashes had at least some fault that makes "accident" kind of misleading), but some things in life are just accidents or mistakes that, while having dire consequences, do not rise to the level of unlawful behavior or negligence.

I agree with this, and I wish we thought of it more.

I understand why family and friends sometimes want to blame people, but it's probably important to remember for criminal stuff especially. (I'd even want people to remember it for civil cases, but that's probably so counter to our culture these days that it would never happen. I understand that liability is going to be different though.)

I'm sort of surprised that going 16 over doesn't seem negligent, but maybe there's a precedent or guideline of some kind or maybe there was testimony about how given the limited amount of time she had to react that her speed wasn't much of as issue in his death. This is probably sick the way I'm expressing it and I apologize, but even at 55, depending on when he walked out, he'd have been just as dead.