Hazing allegations raised at WSU (Theta Chi and Delta Chi)

PeppyGPhiB · #1 11-08-2007, 03:35 AM

Saw this story on the news tonight, but so far this is the only print news I can find on it...probably more will surface tomorrow.

Hazing allegations raised at WSU

Washington State University is removing 32 freshmen from two fraternities for their own safety after allegations of hazing, including an alleged incident that resulted in a broken jaw.

The Theta Chi and Delta Chi residents will be temporarily relocated to campus residence halls, according to a statement released late Wednesday afternoon by WSU.
http://www.lmtribune.com/breaking-news/469/

bcs · #2 11-09-2007, 01:45 PM

News sources have it wrong (imagine that). There was no "hazing" involved in this incident. I love how media spice things up to make their stories more 'news worthy'. Makes me wonder how many other news stories are inaccurate.
Here's another article: http://wsunews.wsu.edu/detail.asp?StoryID=6855.

nittanyalum · #3 11-09-2007, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bcs

News sources have it wrong (imagine that). There was no "hazing" involved in this incident. I love how media spice things up to make their stories more 'news worthy'. Makes me wonder how many other news stories are inaccurate.
Here's another article: http://wsunews.wsu.edu/detail.asp?StoryID=6855.

I'm not sure where you're getting that there was definitively "no hazing" involved. This is clearly a very carefully worded press release from the university and greek life office to acknowledge an incident occurred and the freshmen are being relocated "for their own safety". My guess is they specifically avoided the words "haze" as well as "pledge", though they did use the word "assault" and mentioned the need for the greek community to adhere to standards that guarantee students' safety. Even if it somehow wasn't "hazing", you still have young students being subject to "assaults" somehow, one ending up with a broken jaw and the university concerned enough to whisk the freshmen off to safer havens. Still doesn't come off looking good for the greeks.

Tom Earp · #4 11-09-2007, 03:15 PM

A colleges first concern is the safety of their students as it should be.

There are a lot of things thrown around but nothing of substance about what actually transpired. Sounds like maybe a fight between two Fraternities?

"If" that is the case, maybe that is why noting specific was mentioned about hazing and pledges.

seattlealum · #5 11-09-2007, 03:21 PM

there were actually multiple fights between the two house. not hazing. the media uses the term "hazing" for "desire of sensationalism"

more people will read the article if it mentions hazing. just the way it is

LaneSig · #6 11-09-2007, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by seattlealum

there were actually multiple fights between the two house. not hazing. the media uses the term "hazing" for "desire of sensationalism"

more people will read the article if it mentions hazing. just the way it is

So, both you and the other poster know for sure that the original reporter was told that the reason was multiple fights, but they chose to say hazing instead? There's no chance that the reporter was told hazing? Reporters are losing their jobs these days over the slightest mistake in their stories. You need to call the editors and tell them.

seattlealum · #7 11-09-2007, 03:33 PM

I would bet that there have allready been phone calls to editors about this. As the reporter does not mention their source, there is no way to know who told them what, but from personal experience with reporters in reference to previous instances at WSU, they print what they think will sell a paper.

exlurker · #8 11-09-2007, 04:47 PM

The student newspaper, the Daily Evergreen, has an article:

http://www.dailyevergreen.com/story/23992

I agree that none of the reports make the fraternities (or at least some of their members) look good.

coug4lfe · #9 11-09-2007, 09:05 PM

Do you honestly think that reporters don't "stretch" the facts for sensationalism? The facts are that 2 young men were brutally beaten after exchanging words at a pizza place. The Delta Chi's went back to their house, gathered up a larger group and then proceeded to beat the other 2 guys and left them bleeding on the sidewalk with severe injuries. It had nothing to do with hazing. It was not on fraternity property. It is being handled by Greek Life and by the fraternities themselves. Unfortunately, the cowards that did the beating have refused to come forward and are being protected by their "brothers." Hopefully, justice will eventually be served. The beaters will be prosecuted. In my opinion since the fraternity that was responsible for the brutality refuses to cooperate and the young cowards that are so filled with rage that they would injure a young man badly enough that he required his jaw to be wired shut have not come forward, that Delta Chi should be shut down. No amount of taunting or even property damage is an excuse or justification for the physical harm they caused. That they are still allowed to be on campus as a fraternity is beyond me. I would be totally ashamed to be a parent of a Delta Chi at Washington State.

PeppyGPhiB · #10 11-10-2007, 03:45 AM

Since I was in high school, I've heard stories about the screw ups in the fraternities at WSU. My brother later went to WSU, but never would have joined a fraternity there...he said they were "losers." Now, I haven't met many fraternity guys from WSU, but it seems like they're always getting put on probation or suspended or losing their houses, and sorry, but it takes A LOT to be seen as out-of-control and wild at WSU!

banditone · #11 11-10-2007, 10:49 AM

The fact that it was all freshmen is what leads me to believe it was 'hazing', an idea pushed upon them by upperclassmen.

It happens... But in this instance, no broken jaw and trip to the hospital and there would be no story.

seattlealum · #12 11-11-2007, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by coug4lfe

Do you honestly think that reporters don't "stretch" the facts for sensationalism? The facts are that 2 young men were brutally beaten after exchanging words at a pizza place. The Delta Chi's went back to their house, gathered up a larger group and then proceeded to beat the other 2 guys and left them bleeding on the sidewalk with severe injuries. It had nothing to do with hazing. It was not on fraternity property. It is being handled by Greek Life and by the fraternities themselves. Unfortunately, the cowards that did the beating have refused to come forward and are being protected by their "brothers." Hopefully, justice will eventually be served. The beaters will be prosecuted. In my opinion since the fraternity that was responsible for the brutality refuses to cooperate and the young cowards that are so filled with rage that they would injure a young man badly enough that he required his jaw to be wired shut have not come forward, that Delta Chi should be shut down. No amount of taunting or even property damage is an excuse or justification for the physical harm they caused. That they are still allowed to be on campus as a fraternity is beyond me. I would be totally ashamed to be a parent of a Delta Chi at Washington State.

you are wrong about most of your facts. you might want to be right before you quote things as the truth

breddi · #13 11-18-2007, 06:51 AM

you are a horrible person, you do not know the facts so stop talking. read my reply to your ridiculous post then message me back if the facts still aren't straight.

nittanyalum · #14 11-11-2007, 10:42 AM

Wow, coug4lfe, SLOW DOWN. You are clearly allowed to have your opinions and defend whatever side of an argument you like, but coming on here and making direct derogatory comments to someone who's been posting here for over a year is not necessary. Why go after someone and wonder why they are on the boards however much they are -- why did YOU come here and join up just to rant? It sounds like you might have a son in one of these fraternities (Theta Chi?) and this is hitting very close to home -- got it, definitely stand up for him if you like -- but keep your head about you because otherwise people will disregard your posts and thus, your possibly valuable contribution to the discussion. PeppyGPhiB is from WA, so she is just giving her opinions (in general terms about fraternity life, not specific houses), and she's entitled to do that too.

breddi · #15 11-18-2007, 06:45 AM

to coug4life, i dont know who you think you are saying delta chi brutally beat someone and left him on the street, you along with other people \are the reason US delta chis are getting this horrible reputation...you obviously dont know what happened and should keep your mouth shut until you do. This kid was in a one on one fight and got punched not "curb stomped" he would be dead if that were the case. there were many members watching the fight that involved only around 5 to 6 men. no one was beaten to death just hit very hard in a fair fight. and if i remember correctly the kids were both on their feet yelling death threats, not lying on the ground dying. Get your facts straight and quit making up bull shit.yes i am a WSU delta chi and damn proud along with my parents. You on the other hand are pathetic and need to get a life other than spreading false rumors about something you have no idea about. The men involved in the fight were not cowards and turned their names into the police the next day. there have been repeated offenses by theta chi memebers, each one involving them coming to our property and provoking everything, it is not over just a couple broken windows they are the ones who are risking our saftey and therefor should have been the only ones moved out.