Greek Splinters Groups?

[KyleMcGuire1983]

Anybody know of any "splinter" groups and their stories?

I only know of two involving Sigma Nu

1) Sigma Nu Chi at SUNY-Geneso happened in the late 90s

2) The Nu Society at Vanderbuilt- Rebel faction after Vanderbuilt shut down Sigma Nu over a bonfire they had.

anybody have any other stories or examples? I find it facinating and part of me feels a little bit angry about the whole thing.

[Blessed2bDST]

Not sure if this is an apples to apples example but my father is a member of Kappa Alpha Psi. Many years ago, some members were unhappy with the direction of the main alumnae chapter and started their own club for men who had been members of the fraternity for 25 years or longer.

They pay dues to their club, have guest speakers and social events sponsored by their club and do not interact much with the other chapters in the area. They are very proud members of the organization, they just choose not to affiliate with any of the local chapters.

[L.O.C.K.]

APEs.

Used to be AEPi but got kicked off in the early 1990's and lost their charter. Exist as essentially a glorified drinking club on campus.

Ironically, according to my brother who is AEPi from Emory, they have APEs their too.

[SkiingSister]

In the 70's I think it was, the members of Phi Kappa Tau chapter at California State University at Chico got fed up with their national, got rid of them and founded their own fraternity, Tau Gamma Theta.

Phi Kappa Tau must have recolonized and they are on campus.

Tau Gamma Theta has a house but are not recognized by IFC. I don't even think that have badges. They WERE known for their heavy drinking and hazing.

[10thAndChestnut]

Originally Posted by SkiingSister

In the 70's I think it was, the members of Phi Kappa Tau chapter at California State University at Chico got fed up with their national, got rid of them and founded their own fraternity, Tau Gamma Theta.

Phi Kappa Tau must have recolonized and they are on campus.

Tau Gamma Theta has a house but are not recognized by IFC. I don't even think that have badges. They are known for their heavy drinking and hazing.

In the spring of 1968, the national office of Phi Kappa Tau had a rule on the books. If a member of any chapter was found or known to be smoking marijuana, he was to be expelled. At Chico State, it was revealed that a member of the Phi Kappa Tau chapter did, in fact, smoke marijuana. It was policy that he be expelled. The overwhelming majority of the membership did not agree that his "crime" warranted expulsion- he was a functioning member of the group and he used marijuana on his own time and never while representing the organization. The rule was still a rule.

Charles Preusser, president of the Phi Taus, and forty-four other members of the organization, decided that they would not allow a fraternity headquarters thousands of miles away to dictate what they did in their personal lives. The broke off and formed the Tau Gamma Theta Fraternity, founding it on the ideals of Christian Values, Innate Worth of the individual, Democratic process, and tolerance.

Tau Gamma Theta became one of the most progressive fraternities in Chico, and rapidly grew in size. It became the first fraternity in Chico to allow a black man to pledge. It won "Pioneer Days" greek competitions repeatedly.

Now here's someone telling you that Tau Gamma Theta is a splinter group without badges that is known for hazing and heavy drinking. And that it's not recognized by the IFC. The IFC at Chico State has decided that no alcohol can be consumed in a fraternity house. I'm 22 years old and I live in a fraternity house. And if I want to drink a beer while I watch the final four, you better believe that no one's going to tell me that I can't do that in my own house.
Heavy drinking? Guilty. This is Chico, for christ's sake. We know how to have a good time. And unlike the IFC fraternities that hide their parties and work out loopholes in the system to sneak a keg into their functions, we're drinking right out in the open and celebrating our right to do so. This isn't the 1920's.
Hazing? Absolutely not. Just because we know how to drink and have fun doesn't mean we're going to force our behavior on anyone else. I am deeply offended by such a libelous and unfounded accusation.
The fact of the matter is, we broke away from our national chapter to take our activities into our own hands. No one sets rules for the members of Tau Gamma Theta except for the members of Tau Gamma Theta, and we've been doing it for almost forty years. If that's what you'd call a splinter group, then so be it. There were another 39 men who decided that they wouldn't be governed from thousands of miles away when they signed their own constitution. If these founders of this country were a splinter group, then I'm proud to be a member of one as well.

[KyleMcGuire1983]

man I sometimes wish we could expel the dumbasses who abuse marijuana in our chapter...

[SkiingSister]

Originally Posted by 10thAndChestnut

In the spring of 1968, the national office of Phi Kappa Tau had a rule on the books. If a member of any chapter was found or known to be smoking marijuana, he was to be expelled. At Chico State, it was revealed that a member of the Phi Kappa Tau chapter did, in fact, smoke marijuana. It was policy that he be expelled. The overwhelming majority of the membership did not agree that his "crime" warranted expulsion- he was a functioning member of the group and he used marijuana on his own time and never while representing the organization. The rule was still a rule.

Charles Preusser, president of the Phi Taus, and forty-four other members of the organization, decided that they would not allow a fraternity headquarters thousands of miles away to dictate what they did in their personal lives. The broke off and formed the Tau Gamma Theta Fraternity, founding it on the ideals of Christian Values, Innate Worth of the individual, Democratic process, and tolerance.

Tau Gamma Theta became one of the most progressive fraternities in Chico, and rapidly grew in size. It became the first fraternity in Chico to allow a black man to pledge. It won "Pioneer Days" greek competitions repeatedly.

Now here's someone telling you that Tau Gamma Theta is a splinter group without badges that is known for hazing and heavy drinking. And that it's not recognized by the IFC. The IFC at Chico State has decided that no alcohol can be consumed in a fraternity house. I'm 22 years old and I live in a fraternity house. And if I want to drink a beer while I watch the final four, you better believe that no one's going to tell me that I can't do that in my own house.
Heavy drinking? Guilty. This is Chico, for christ's sake. We know how to have a good time. And unlike the IFC fraternities that hide their parties and work out loopholes in the system to sneak a keg into their functions, we're drinking right out in the open and celebrating our right to do so. This isn't the 1920's.
Hazing? Absolutely not. Just because we know how to drink and have fun doesn't mean we're going to force our behavior on anyone else. I am deeply offended by such a libelous and unfounded accusation.
The fact of the matter is, we broke away from our national chapter to take our activities into our own hands. No one sets rules for the members of Tau Gamma Theta except for the members of Tau Gamma Theta, and we've been doing it for almost forty years. If that's what you'd call a splinter group, then so be it. There were another 39 men who decided that they wouldn't be governed from thousands of miles away when they signed their own constitution. If these founders of this country were a splinter group, then I'm proud to be a member of one as well.

Okay, I changed the posting. Hope your happy. Go smoke a reality pipe. I do not know about the hazing now, but, I have heard otherwise in the past.

[DSTRen13]

Originally Posted by L.O.C.K.

APEs.

Used to be AEPi but got kicked off in the early 1990's and lost their charter. Exist as essentially a glorified drinking club on campus.

Ironically, according to my brother who is AEPi from Emory, they have APEs their too.

Yes, they do have both AEPi and APEs at Emory.

[BabyPiNK_FL]

a lot of people don't know that the Philomathean Society that eventually became Phi Mu was formally started on January 4th of 1852 (so yes, 1852, but not that far out of 1851!) However, we were publically announced on March 4th and that is the date that we celebrate as Founder's Day (a lot of people get confused when they read this! One time AXID came in to our meeting to give us a gift for our "Founder's Day" in late January lol! A LOT of people get that one wrong!

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Blessed2bDST

Not sure if this is an apples to apples example but my father is a member of Kappa Alpha Psi. Many years ago, some members were unhappy with the direction of the main alumnae chapter and started their own club for men who had been members of the fraternity for 25 years or longer.

They pay dues to their club, have guest speakers and social events sponsored by their club and do not interact much with the other chapters in the area. They are very proud members of the organization, they just choose not to affiliate with any of the local chapters.

That's lame.

[JWithers]

Isn't Phi Mu an offshoot of ADPi? Did I read that in here somewhere?

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by JWithers

Isn't Phi Mu an offshoot of ADPi? Did I read that in here somewhere?

NO.

They were both founded at the same university, and had the same professor help them with their "Greek", but one did not come from the other.

[ms_gwyn]

Originally Posted by JWithers

Isn't Phi Mu an offshoot of ADPi? Did I read that in here somewhere?

NO

ADPi was founded in 1851
Phi Mu was founded in 1852

at the same school and a founder of ADPi and a founder of Phi Mu were roommates

No off-shoot or splinter group of any kind

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

That's lame.

I should have read ahead - LOL.

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by Blessed2bDST

Not sure if this is an apples to apples example but my father is a member of Kappa Alpha Psi. Many years ago, some members were unhappy with the direction of the main alumnae chapter and started their own club for men who had been members of the fraternity for 25 years or longer.

They pay dues to their club, have guest speakers and social events sponsored by their club and do not interact much with the other chapters in the area. They are very proud members of the organization, they just choose not to affiliate with any of the local chapters.

Um, why didn't that just charter a new chapter? This makes no sense.