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04-22-2007, 02:41 AM
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Good Fraternities at Mississippi State?
What are some of the reputations of the different fraternities at Mississippi State? I want to go through rush in the fall, but they all look the same to me. Thanks.
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04-22-2007, 11:48 AM
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Well, I don't go to Mississippi State, nor do I know anything about it, but the whole point of rush is so you can find these things out for yourself. You are the one that should decide which fraternity is the "good one" and not just listen to someone on some message board. Once you meet all the members and find out more about each fraternity they wont all look the same to you and one or two will stand out as not the best one, but the best one for you.
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04-22-2007, 01:20 PM
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Thanks for your reply, Jessica. I plan to keep my eyes open during rush, but it would be extremely helpful to hear public opinion on some of these chapters so I have a better idea of their reputations. Even the worst groups can put on a good show during rush.
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04-22-2007, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by statedawg
Thanks for your reply, Jessica. I plan to keep my eyes open during rush, but it would be extremely helpful to hear public opinion on some of these chapters so I have a better idea of their reputations. Even the worst groups can put on a good show during rush.
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Everyone will have their own POV's.
Just keep your eyes and ears open and your wits about you. And ask questions.
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04-22-2007, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by statedawg
Thanks for your reply, Jessica. I plan to keep my eyes open during rush, but it would be extremely helpful to hear public opinion on some of these chapters so I have a better idea of their reputations. Even the worst groups can put on a good show during rush.
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I don't understand what you mean by "good show."
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04-22-2007, 02:33 PM
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Opinions are just that - opinions. You need to trust yourself and your ability to judge a group as to what you are looking for in a brotherhood.
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04-22-2007, 03:14 PM
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I don't understand what you mean by "good show."
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Well, it means just that, bad houses will put on a good show during rush to try to hide the fact that they are a bad house. They will only bring out what they would consider thei best members, talk the house up a bunch, etc.
This is the problem with Greekchat...............some of you need to realize that there are going to be shitty chapters at schools. Cut it with all of the "each house is good and unique in its own way and blah blah blah" crap.
Statedawg, I can find out which houses houses are good there. I'll reply back .
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04-22-2007, 03:41 PM
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That's sort of the NIC/NPC disconnect. Sorority members will seldom put in print that they think a chapter of one organization is better than another.
I think Sigma Nu just started a recolonization effort Mississippi State. Generally speaking, being in a colony is hard work. We're recolonizing every SEC chapter though, so I don't think they would have moved without some significant $$ to back them.
They won't be the biggest or win the most awards (if any) and I don't know what kind of guys they'll get (our consultants generally do a pretty good job) but the colony experience is pretty unique. I wouldn't trade it for standard pledging. But to each his own.
Good luck.
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04-22-2007, 06:11 PM
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Well, it means just that, bad houses will put on a good show during rush to try to hide the fact that they are a bad house. They will only bring out what they would consider thei best members, talk the house up a bunch, etc.
This is the problem with Greekchat...............some of you need to realize that there are going to be shitty chapters at schools. Cut it with all of the "each house is good and unique in its own way and blah blah blah" crap.
Statedawg, I can find out which houses houses are good there. I'll reply back .
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I don't see how a fraternity could hide the fact they are a "bad house" whatever that means. Maybe they can razzel dazzel a pnm with girls, alcohol, trophies, or whatever else, but anyone that is attracted to a fraternity because of those reasons is a tool bag.
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04-23-2007, 07:26 AM
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Oh - and if you don't want sorority women's opinions, I'd suggest moving this to Fraternity Rush.
As to making "generalizations " - um, no. My point was that there are men who are looking for more than the superficial when they go through rush. I never attacked any single fraternity, or any specific campus, although you would think I had by the virulent responses. I discussed a very specific situation where successful college students felt the fraternities at that time were not focused on the brotherhood they sought. I argued that you shouldn't assume all PNMs were not also looking beyond sports trophies and number of parties, or the type of thing that you can subjectively measure. I know that when my brother went through rush he was looking for a group of men with whom he could share brotherhood - the type he had known in the Marines. He made up his own mind, not based on what the "top" houses were, but on where he felt that connection.
And when I said I would not say all men were stupid, but feel free to argue the point - I'm really surprised someone took me up on it! So, okay, you've convinced me.
And nowhere did I say that any poster here did not have brotherhood. Some of you need to re-read my post before assuming I was attacking you.
Apparently I was wrong, so I apologize.I bow to the superior understanding of those who have previously posted. My understanding of what fraternities are all about was obviously way off base.
Find out which house has the best record in competitions, craziest parties, best mixers, and wildest formals. Good luck.
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04-23-2007, 08:53 AM
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I don't understand why honesty is looked down upon so much around here.
If someone asked about Baylor, and you said "Well, the Sigma Nu chapter there isn't very strong". I wouldn't cry about it. I do want us to be strong/leaders on every campus, however, I do realize that is IMPOSSIBLE to do for any GLO.
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04-23-2007, 09:03 AM
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several of the fraternities have summer rush parties posted, or email addresses for their rush chairmen. good luck, statedawg.
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04-23-2007, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by banditone
I don't understand why honesty is looked down upon so much around here.
If someone asked about Baylor, and you said "Well, the Sigma Nu chapter there isn't very strong". I wouldn't cry about it. I do want us to be strong/leaders on every campus, however, I do realize that is IMPOSSIBLE to do for any GLO.
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Because you don't know for sure that it IS honest.
I mean say I can't stand the (random example) KDs at my school for whatever reason. I can come on here and say "well even though the KDs are big and popular, they all hate each others' guts and backstab constantly and they all had to pay extra dues last year because their last treasurer embezzled and they make you throw away your old clothes and buy all new ones." This is all complete BS, but now that seed's been planted and even if it is complete BS, it's going to stick in the rushee's head.
I don't have a problem with rushees saying "well I didn't like ASA, they were too quiet for me" because rushees don't have an ulterior motive. But when members of other groups on that campus say it, you never know how much is true and how much isn't.
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04-23-2007, 10:04 AM
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Because you don't know for sure that it IS honest.
I mean say I can't stand the (random example) KDs at my school for whatever reason. I can come on here and say "well even though the KDs are big and popular, they all hate each others' guts and backstab constantly and they all had to pay extra dues last year because their last treasurer embezzled and they make you throw away your old clothes and buy all new ones." This is all complete BS, but now that seed's been planted and even if it is complete BS, it's going to stick in the rushee's head.
I don't have a problem with rushees saying "well I didn't like ASA, they were too quiet for me" because rushees don't have an ulterior motive. But when members of other groups on that campus say it, you never know how much is true and how much isn't.
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Dishonesty is a risk you run any time you ask a question on an internet message board.
I don't think one dishonest representation re: KD is going to bring their chapter down. People are just looking for additional information. They'll do their own homework.
You're also suggesting that people here have ulterior motives when writing about folks on other campuses. I don't understand that. Maybe some of us do, but frankly, most of us could care less where/what/if these kids decide to join.
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04-23-2007, 10:17 AM
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You're also suggesting that people here have ulterior motives when writing about folks on other campuses. I don't understand that. Maybe some of us do, but frankly, most of us could care less where/what/if these kids decide to join.
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You raise another good point though - if you're writing about folks on other campuses, how well-versed enough are you in the Greek system on that campus to really be giving information?
If you're spouting off second-hand information from friends/acquaintences who went to that school (or third-hand information heard through a friend of a friend of a friend), you're still running the risk of presenting the kind of information that 33girl mentioned above - who's to say that the information that was passed on to you wasn't biased? If your friend is in XYZ fraternity that directly competes with ABC fraternity (for potential pledges, for attention from sororities, for intramural sports titles, etc.), his opinion of them is colored by those factors, even if he isn't intentionally trying to be biased.
Of course, I'd hope that statedawg would rely more heavily on his own opinions and/or the info he got from his HS friends (who he mentioned have all ended up in different fraternities at MSU), etc. before giving too much weight to everyone's opinions here.
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