Facebook... "Dirty Rushing"?

[GtownGirl98]

Do you consider Facebook to be a tool for dirty rushing?

How are panhells combating Facebook/Myspace dirty rushing? Can they do anything about it?

Just wondering?

[Senusret I]

If I understand dirty rushing correctly, couldn't it potentially occur in any situation where members intact with non-members?

Help me understand how online methods encourage or facilitate it.

(Because I really want help understanding, not because I am judging it one way or the other.)

[lyrica9]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

If I understand dirty rushing correctly, couldn't it potentially occur in any situation where members intact with non-members?

Help me understand how online methods encourage or facilitate it.

(Because I really want help understanding, not because I am judging it one way or the other.)

it makes it easy for members to find the PNMs and message them, which breaks the NPC contact rules. basically, it's a lot easier and sneakier to contact them online, especially on facebook where they just have to enter their name and can find them, rather than finding a girl you want to join your sorority out at a club or in a dorm, where you could be seen by other people.


i know my old school started dealing with the whole facebook issue by requiring that the PNMs make their profiles private so no non-friends could look at them/message them. and i think they may have had a rule about not friending/contacting PNMs for the sorority members.

i guess the minifeed would make it a lot easier to catch someone friending a PNM when they're not supposed to.

[Senusret I]

Thanks ladies!








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[texas*princess]

do the college panhellenics police facebook & myspace? How would they be able to enforce those and/or police those if the pages are private?

I'm so glad I had just graduated when the whole facebook thing started in my area.

[FSUZeta]

dirty rushing can occur anytime up to and including the actual recruitment. as soon as the pnm gets her facebook notification from her (soon-to-be) college, she can go on and start accepting people as friends.

it is not "illegal" for a sorority member to be in contact with a pnm until the designated "silence period", when sorority members and pnms are not to converse with or contact one another. often this occurs at the end of the spring semester and carries thru to bid day in the fall(or thru fall until the actual bid day spring semester for those with deferred rush).

one problem that can occur is when either the member or the pnm contact the other during the silence period. a virtual friendship can develop, which might give that sorority an edge with the pnm. it might also backfire on the pnm-she might feel that her "friendship" with the sorority member might give her an edge over the other pnms. pin all her hopes on joining that group and then might not receive a bid from them.

quite a few sororities ask their members to make their profiles inaccessible during the silence period to safeguard against this.

[FSUZeta]

you would be surprised how many times a sorority member gets caught contacting a pnm during recruitment-some people don't think to make it private!!

[Drolefille]

I know dirty rushing occurs over Instant Messenger and email. Facebook just makes it even more accessible, although it has can be easily seen by others.
In particular facebook gives the sororities access to your contact info.

[Miss{BooperDoo}]

Originally Posted by AXiD670

If Susie Sorority is friends w/ Rachel Rushee on facebook, she could post comments on her page like, "So glad you were at skit night tonight, you'd be a great fit! See you tomorrow!!!" that could be considered dirty rushing.

Actively seeking out potential new members during recruitment and adding them as friends on facebook might also be considered dirty rushing.

I'm not sure, but if some schools wanted to be super-strict about facebook, if chapter members who were previously friends w/ the potential new members were posting comments on their page during recruitment, that might be considered a violation, even something as benign as "Hi!" or whatever.

Lately, I've been thinking about how glad I am I didn't go to college during the whole facebook thing. It was bad enough being broken up with by your boyfriend, but when you log in to facebook and the first thing you see is that your boyfriend has listed himself as "single" or that his friends start posting things like, "glad you got rid of the dead weight!", or cute girls suddenly posting on his page, I might have freaked out and gone over the edge.

Sorry, was reading down through this thread and read your post and it cracked me up about the boyfriend bit.

[sundance]

During fall rush here (UCLA), all of the girls deactivated their Facebooks (basically, it's deleted, but you can always bring it back). I don't know whether this was required, or whether it was just easier than deleting pictures, changing privacy settings, and "cleaning up" their profiles.

It was really effective, because it was as if girls in sororities didn't even exist! I'm sure it was hard for them to live without Facebook for that time, but they all survived.

[Symbal]

Rho Chi's had to make their Facebook profiles Private, though I'm not sure about Myspace. It's not big here.
Sorority sisters, as far as I know, did not have to do anything to their profiles. I remember friending a sister during rush (she didn't confirm until after COB) since we had gotten along well. I did not message her, nor did she message me until the whole thing was over.
Rushees were not given special instructions other than don't contact the sisters outside of rush activities.
I know a lot of girls who used Facebook as a way to get a feel of the sorority she had in mind. She looked at the functions they did together, what the sisters were like, etc.

[AGDLynn]

Interesting conversation with a collegiate Panhellenic officer yesterday.

She was at their national convention. There was a Facebook slideshow of different sorority members across the country doing "questionable" things, like drinking, skanky outfits. Wonder what those members thought when they saw their face/chapter members' faces flashed on a gigantic screen.

So, everyone (sorority members or potentials), clean up your Facebook or set to Private or someone may see it and get an unfavorable impression of you.

[guardedbystars]

Originally Posted by AXiD670

If Susie Sorority is friends w/ Rachel Rushee on facebook, she could post comments on her page like, "So glad you were at skit night tonight, you'd be a great fit! See you tomorrow!!!" that could be considered dirty rushing.

Actively seeking out potential new members during recruitment and adding them as friends on facebook might also be considered dirty rushing.

I'm not sure, but if some schools wanted to be super-strict about facebook, if chapter members who were previously friends w/ the potential new members were posting comments on their page during recruitment, that might be considered a violation, even something as benign as "Hi!" or whatever.

My entire chapter have our Facebook profiles on private (at least, we were urged to do this -- although, mine has been private from beginning because it's creepy).

I was close with one of our PNMs and I wasn't allowed to talk to her on facebook or IM because we weren't sure if it was dirty rushing or not, we just wanted to be safe. The thing about this is that it is really easy just to copy and paste something all over the internet and to spread it.

I also saw said PNM at the bar near campus and I felt so bad because she wanted to tell me everything/how she was feeling about rushing and I couldn't be there as her friend... but it paid off because she joined our house!

[AGDLynn]

From Panhellenic..

We are asking all of you to adhere to the requirement below in order to clearly define facebook when it comes to closed contact and to protect the identities of our Rho Gammas.

No sorority women should be friends with potential new members, not even orientation leaders. Please let your orientation leaders know that they should simply explain to the women that because they are in a sorority, they are not allowed to be friends on facebook with them to keep recruitment fair.

Also, all sorority women need to alter their privacy settings on facebook. Everyone needs to go to "privacy," then select "profile," and then select "only my friends" for every single blank. Then select "save." We are having everyone do this instead of having to take down all of their pictures that have Panhellenic Exec or Rho Gammas in them.

Please make sure that profile pictures do not have any Panhellenic Exec or Rho Gammas in them either.

[UGAalum94]

AGDLynn,

That really does seem like a good idea since then nobody going through recruitment is going to use facebook pictures to profile the groups either.

What about women who are already facebook friends with PNMs? All it does in these cases in make facebook dirty rushing invisible to others, right? (Or are they supposed to "de-friend" them?)