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[mizz_kelli]

How do you interpret an act hazing or just life?

[thedeepblue]

Originally posted by mizz_kelli
How do you interpret an act hazing or just life?

the way i see it, hazing considerably demans the person physically and more importantly, mentally - it is pure humiliation..

[Kevin]

I interpret it according to the rules of my organization. If I have a question, IHQ doesn't mind a call. Thus far, I've never had a question though.

[mizz_kelli]

ok so like you say demeaning like would you think most people could interpret the hazing acts through common sense or what?

[thedeepblue]

Originally posted by mizz_kelli
ok so like you say demeaning like would you think most people could interpret the hazing acts through common sense or what?

i like to think most would..

[mizz_kelli]

ok so my theory on the way i think is right for the most part...i mean if certain acts make you emotionally distaught or physically enable to do things...wouldnt you leave? i mean wouldnt it be your first instinct to leave a situation?

[Kevin]

Originally posted by mizz_kelli
ok so my theory on the way i think is right for the most part...i mean if certain acts make you emotionally distaught or physically enable to do things...wouldnt you leave? i mean wouldnt it be your first instinct to leave a situation?

That would be my first instinct.

However, a greater purpose could be served if you turned the group in question in to their national HQ.

I've actually seen this happen at two chapters on my campus -- the HQ came and booted almost all of the actives, initiated the new members and basically rebuilt the chapter from the ground up. While now, it may not seem like it's out of hand, later, you never know, someone could get hurt or killed. Personally, I wouldn't like something like that on my conscience. These folks know they're in the wrong and choose to do it anyway. They need a wake up call and I hope you do the right thing and turn their butts in.

[thedeepblue]

Originally posted by ktsnake
That would be my first instinct.

However, a greater purpose could be served if you turned the group in question in to their national HQ.

I've actually seen this happen at two chapters on my campus -- the HQ came and booted almost all of the actives, initiated the new members and basically rebuilt the chapter from the ground up. While now, it may not seem like it's out of hand, later, you never know, someone could get hurt or killed. Personally, I wouldn't like something like that on my conscience. These folks know they're in the wrong and choose to do it anyway. They need a wake up call and I hope you do the right thing and turn their butts in.

i'm with you 100%

[ADPiShannan]

Ok I foudn my old old pledge book, or alpha book. In it it states

Hazing is any situation which creates mental or physical abuse, discomfort, embarrassment, ridicule, or harassment, whether on or away from sorority property.

We DO not tolerate hazing at all. We treat our new girls like princesses. We take their plates from them, we do not assign them any work, we dont give them chores, we dont let them help the chapter clean or anything. I mean we DONT let them lift a finger.

[AGDLynn]

http://students.georgiasouthern.edu/...ife/hazing.htm


Office of Greek Life Hazing Policy
No chapter, colony, student or alumnus shall conduct nor condone hazing activities. Hazing activities are defined as:

"Any action taken or situation created, intentionally, whether on or off fraternity premises, to produce mental or physical discomfort, embarrassment, harassment, or ridicule. Such activities may include but are not limited to the following: use of alcohol; paddling in any form; creation of excessive fatigue; physical and psychological shocks; quests, treasure hunts, scavenger hunts, road trips or any other such activities carried on outside or inside of the confines of the chapter house; wearing of public apparel which is conspicuous and not normally in good taste; engaging in public stunts and buffoonery; morally degrading or humiliating games and activities; and any other activities which are not consistent with academic achievement, fraternal law, ritual or policy or the regulations and policies of the educational institution or applicable state law."

Georgia State Law Regarding Hazing
§ 16-5-61 . Hazing

(a) As used in this Code section, the term:

“Haze” means to subject a student to an activity which endangers or is likely to endanger the physical health of a student , regardless of a student's willingness to participate in such activity.
“School” means any school, college, or university in this state.
“School organization ” means any club, society, fraternity, sorority, or a group living together which has students as its principal members.
“ Student ” means any person enrolled in a school in this state.
(b) It shall be unlawful for any person to haze any student in connection with or as condition or precondition of gaining acceptance, membership, office, or other status in a school organization .

(c) Any person who violates this Code section shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of a high and aggravated nature.

(Code 1981, § 16-5-61, enacted by GA. L. 1988, p. 694, § 1; GA. L. 1990, p. 1690, § 1.)

RESEARCH REFERENCES

ALR. - Tort liability of college, university, fraternity, or sorority for injury or death of member or prospective member by hazing or initiation activity, 68 ALR4th 228. Validity, construction, and application of “hazing” statutes, 30 ALR5th 683.

[WhiteDaisy128]

If you have a question about it...then it's probably hazing...

[HederaNaturale]

If you wouldn't want it covered on the local news...

If you wouldn't want to tell your parents about it...

If you could potentially risk the good standing of yourself or another person by doing it...

it's probably hazing.

[Tom Earp]

Basically, if you went through a HAZING Peiod, did it make you feel good at the Time?

If not, it is hazing. Period.

Is it right because you went through this form of hazing, (if you did), does that make it right?

When I started a Local, I stated, there will be no hazing. Back then, we had line ups, not to be malicious, but to do constuctive critisimions, pledges cleaned the House, not personel rooms. That is now Verboton!

Is it good, I cannot really say, it did not hurt me one bit, but if someone wanted to put a paddle to my butt or make me over drink, there would have been a problem! Oh, I was a Pledge of a local who went International while I was there.

[LXAAlum]

Originally posted by ktsnake
While now, it may not seem like it's out of hand, later, you never know, someone could get hurt or killed.

That, in a nutshell, is THE real problem with hazing...it's the slow gradual (perhaps unnoticed) escalation from term to term, that will eventually lead to catastrophe if left unchecked. That, couple with the "it can't happen here" idiotic mindset, has left the greek system in the situation we find ourselves today.

Like others have posted: If you wouldn't be comfortable inviting your parents to witness what you are going through, then it's probably hazing (yeah, I know, these are not open ceremonies, but, the principle applies...if you COULD, would you?)

[Tom Earp]

Thank goodness you are My Brother and explain so many things so much better than I do!

Kev, you would be a Great LXA! SX has a Great Brother in YOU!