Out of State? You CAN have a successful recruitment at Alabama

[SFDCgirl]

I've been a longtime lurker but needed to come out of anonymity to call BS that you can't have a successful recruitment at Alabama if you are from out of state. Every new member class yesterday is over 50% from out of state. EVERY HOUSE! Follow the rules: 1) get your recs in 2) don't be a bitch during recruitment. You may still not get a bid if you have poor grades, have a sketchy reputation or didn't maximize your options. But it is NOT because you are from out of state. That excuse won't fly anymore.

The number in ( ) is the number of in state girls if you want to check my math on the %.

BIDS BY CHAPTER - IN STATE/OUT OF STATE

Alpha Gamma Delta 112 (55)
49% In State
51% OO State

Alpha Chi Omega 113 (53)
47% In State
53% OO State

Chi Omega 112 (42)
38% In State
63% OO State

Alpha Omicron Pi 119 (44)
37% In State
63% OO State

Kappa Delta 107 (38)
36% In State
64% OO State

Kappa Kappa Gamma 118 (38)
32% In State
68% OO State

Delta Delta Delta 115 (35)
30% In State
70% OO State

Delta Zeta 117 (34)
29% In State
71% OO State

Alpha Delta Pi 121 (34)
28% In State
72% OO State

Phi Mu 117 (33)
28% In State
72% OO State

Zeta Tau Alpha 118 (25)
21% In State
79% OO State

Alpha Phi 118 (22)
19% In State
81% OO State

Kappa Alpha Theta 119 (20)
17% In State
83% OO State

Pi Beta Phi 116 (18)
16% In State
84% OO State

Gamma Phi Beta 150 (24)
16% In State
84% OO State

Delta Gamma 123 (16)
13% In State
87% OO State

[carnation]

In the absence of a 'like' button, I want to say, "LIKE!!!"

[Sciencewoman]

Even putting the sorority business aside for a moment, I'm just interested in the fact that Alabama is attracting so many out-of-state students. I know my daughter received about 10-15 admissions PR items from them during her college search window.

[SFDCgirl]

Sciencewoman- I was curious about that, too. I wonder how this compares with the demographics of the incoming Freshman class. If the University as a whole is attracting that many out of state students... they have to love the (higher) out-of-state tuition they are getting from these students. (Sorry-- the MBA is coming out )

[carnation]

We've talked about this a lot here, but that 10% rule in Texas is sending so many fabulous students to SEC schools. These kids don't want to go to a smaller school in Texas and transfer to UT or A&M a year later, they want the big school experience for the whole time!

I'd love to know how many go back to Texas when they graduate. I'd also love to know how much money that the SEC schools are making off of out-of-state students!

[KSUViolet06]

Thanks for this. And for doing the math involved. lol.

[Sciencewoman]

Alabama is offering very attractive financial aid packages to lure high achieving students. This tends to work well. I also think the football program helps lure students. Everybody likes a winner. The university where I teach has a very strong football program, where Brian Kelly got his start, and we hear this from incoming students. I also hear about our football program when I meet professors at conferences...I even heard it from the Chancellor of the SUNY system when I met her a couple years ago. She had hired Brian Kelly when she was president of the University of Cincinnati.

[HQWest]

Here are the stats. Bama has had about 50-54% of the women signing up for recruitment from out of state. This is comparable with the overall entering freshmen being from out of state. It looks like a similar fraction Ole Miss.
http://http://cw.ua.edu/2012/04/24/a...ses-each-year/

It is interesting that Bama has comeout and said they plan to recruit out-of -state students as a way to get more students and more dollars per student.

[SFDCgirl]

I am in Atlanta and I know because of the Hope Scholarship many students who can't get into Georgia but still want the SEC experience are heading to Auburn and Alabama. I also read an interesting piece by Steve Forbes about student loans and the price of tuition rising greater than standard inflation because of easy access to student loan money. A winning football team + moderate weather climate + easy access to student loans to pay the higher out-state tuition = makes complete sense they would go after the out of state students. But if I was a taxpayer in Alabama and my flagship state university was courting out of state students, I'm not sure how I would feel.

Speaking of that-- I was also reading that more than 50% of Michigan State University graduates were leaving the state for employment after graduation. I know the economy has especially hit the industrial Midwest pretty hard, but that number surprised me.

[BraveMaroon]

Originally Posted by SFDCgirl

I am in Atlanta and I know because of the Hope Scholarship many students who can't get into Georgia but still want the SEC experience are heading to Auburn and Alabama.

I firmly believe that this is the motivation for Georgia State getting a football team.

[carnation]

And Mercer! And Kennesaw! And Shorter! And () Berry!

[SFDCgirl]

Originally Posted by BraveMaroon

I firmly believe that this is the motivation for Georgia State getting a football team.

Oh yeah! And how many teams get to play a game at Bryant-Denny in their inaugural season? GSU lost 63-7, but what a experience for a brand new program.

[Titchou]

But they court top Alabama students as well. They have "stolen" a good number of kids I know away from typically "southern" schools - several that had been attended by many family members such as Sewanee. When Dr Witt got there several years back his intention was to increase the student body and to recruit tops students. One year we had more National Merit scholars than any other school in the country. It's a different world today.

[Sciencewoman]

Many students want to stay in Michigan, but the job market is not strong. It depends on the field. Michigan is #2 in the country when it comes to "native born" residents. People want to stay, but often they have to leave. And very few people are moving here. There used to be a saying during the early 80s recession, "last one out of Michigan, turn off the lights!"

That being said, the University of Michigan attracts many out-of-state students, and Michigan is not generous with student aid. They don't have to be. They lure in the full payers.

[TriDeltaSallie]

Originally Posted by Sciencewoman

Michigan is #2 in the country when it comes to "native born" residents.

I had not heard that before. I'm a lifelong resident of this state and have zero intention of leaving. I love West Michigan and can't imagine living elsewhere. Well, maybe the northwest corner of the state except the winters are too long. But a year round cottage up near Suttons Bay or Omena would be nice.