Out of State? You CAN have a successful recruitment at Alabama
 

I've been a longtime lurker but needed to come out of anonymity to call BS that you can't have a successful recruitment at Alabama if you are from out of state. Every new member class yesterday is over 50% from out of state. EVERY HOUSE! Follow the rules: 1) get your recs in 2) don't be a bitch during recruitment. You may still not get a bid if you have poor grades, have a sketchy reputation or didn't maximize your options. But it is NOT because you are from out of state. That excuse won't fly anymore.

The number in ( ) is the number of in state girls if you want to check my math on the %.

BIDS BY CHAPTER - IN STATE/OUT OF STATE

Alpha Gamma Delta 112 (55)
49% In State
51% OO State

Alpha Chi Omega 113 (53)
47% In State
53% OO State

Chi Omega 112 (42)
38% In State
63% OO State

Alpha Omicron Pi 119 (44)
37% In State
63% OO State

Kappa Delta 107 (38)
36% In State
64% OO State

Kappa Kappa Gamma 118 (38)
32% In State
68% OO State

Delta Delta Delta 115 (35)
30% In State
70% OO State

Delta Zeta 117 (34)
29% In State
71% OO State

Alpha Delta Pi 121 (34)
28% In State
72% OO State

Phi Mu 117 (33)
28% In State
72% OO State

Zeta Tau Alpha 118 (25)
21% In State
79% OO State

Alpha Phi 118 (22)
19% In State
81% OO State

Kappa Alpha Theta 119 (20)
17% In State
83% OO State

Pi Beta Phi 116 (18)
16% In State
84% OO State

Gamma Phi Beta 150 (24)
16% In State
84% OO State

Delta Gamma 123 (16)
13% In State
87% OO State

In the absence of a 'like' button, I want to say, "LIKE!!!"

Even putting the sorority business aside for a moment, I'm just interested in the fact that Alabama is attracting so many out-of-state students. I know my daughter received about 10-15 admissions PR items from them during her college search window.

Sciencewoman- I was curious about that, too. I wonder how this compares with the demographics of the incoming Freshman class. If the University as a whole is attracting that many out of state students... they have to love the (higher) out-of-state tuition they are getting from these students. (Sorry-- the MBA is coming out :) )

We've talked about this a lot here, but that 10% rule in Texas is sending so many fabulous students to SEC schools. These kids don't want to go to a smaller school in Texas and transfer to UT or A&M a year later, they want the big school experience for the whole time!

I'd love to know how many go back to Texas when they graduate. I'd also love to know how much money that the SEC schools are making off of out-of-state students!

Alabama is offering very attractive financial aid packages to lure high achieving students. This tends to work well. I also think the football program helps lure students. Everybody likes a winner. The university where I teach has a very strong football program, where Brian Kelly got his start, and we hear this from incoming students. I also hear about our football program when I meet professors at conferences...I even heard it from the Chancellor of the SUNY system when I met her a couple years ago. She had hired Brian Kelly when she was president of the University of Cincinnati.

Here are the stats. Bama has had about 50-54% of the women signing up for recruitment from out of state. This is comparable with the overall entering freshmen being from out of state. It looks like a similar fraction Ole Miss.
http://http://cw.ua.edu/2012/04/24/a...ses-each-year/

It is interesting that Bama has comeout and said they plan to recruit out-of -state students as a way to get more students and more dollars per student.

I am in Atlanta and I know because of the Hope Scholarship many students who can't get into Georgia but still want the SEC experience are heading to Auburn and Alabama. I also read an interesting piece by Steve Forbes about student loans and the price of tuition rising greater than standard inflation because of easy access to student loan money. A winning football team + moderate weather climate + easy access to student loans to pay the higher out-state tuition = makes complete sense they would go after the out of state students. But if I was a taxpayer in Alabama and my flagship state university was courting out of state students, I'm not sure how I would feel.

Speaking of that-- I was also reading that more than 50% of Michigan State University graduates were leaving the state for employment after graduation. I know the economy has especially hit the industrial Midwest pretty hard, but that number surprised me.

But they court top Alabama students as well. They have "stolen" a good number of kids I know away from typically "southern" schools - several that had been attended by many family members such as Sewanee. When Dr Witt got there several years back his intention was to increase the student body and to recruit tops students. One year we had more National Merit scholars than any other school in the country. It's a different world today.

Many students want to stay in Michigan, but the job market is not strong. It depends on the field. Michigan is #2 in the country when it comes to "native born" residents. People want to stay, but often they have to leave. And very few people are moving here. There used to be a saying during the early 80s recession, "last one out of Michigan, turn off the lights!"

That being said, the University of Michigan attracts many out-of-state students, and Michigan is not generous with student aid. They don't have to be. They lure in the full payers.

As the mom of an OOS Bama student, many of the students I know that end up there are not kids who didn't get into UGA, but are high achieving students who don't want to go to UGA. The scholarships my daughter was given (based on GPA & test scores) made OOS comparable, and as she was raised by Alabama alums, we told her we would rather her be happy with her selection over the fours years, than to settle for UGA (which she visited, but never really liked). There was a recent article about the increase in OOS students (in Forbes, I think) which credited the football program for some of the uptick, but the campus is beautiful, and Dr. Witt certainly increased the focus on academics. The Law School was recently rated as one of the best in the nation and Alabama has many other outstanding programs as well.

I firmly believe that this is the motivation for Georgia State getting a football team.

And Mercer! And Kennesaw! And Shorter! And (:eek:) Berry!

Bamamom16 and Titchou - ugh ugh ugh. I totally did not mean my post to sound that way. This is why I stay away from online communities.

I love Alabama, the state, the school. I was trying to say that out of state students would pay for the SEC and Alabama experience (as in pay out of state tuition) because it was WORTH IT. And the point is, if you have a product/experience that people will pay a premium for, it makes sense to go after that buyer.

But, to what both of you have pointed out to me-- they have also gone to great lengths to retain and recruit top students. I have always been impressed with the students I have interviewed for jobs and internships from Alabama. I just have to tease them about sharing some of the National Championships with the rest of us. :p

I hope there's no hard feelings--- I didn't intend for my comments to sound the way they were interpreted.