Claim: Bronx Students Forced To Clean School Toilets

[Nanners52674]

Department of Education officials are investigating after students at a Bronx school claimed they were forced to clean toilets as a punishment.

Some students at In-Tech Academy in Kingsbridge say they were assigned janitorial duties as part of their detention as recently as last week.

"After school the principal came in with the inspector lady and she was like 'Oh, everyone has to pitch in and clean the toilets and stuff.' So we was cleaning them and we had to clean around them and nasty, it was just mad nasty," said one student.

"Like that's not cool, like making kids clean toilets like that's not how that should go," said another student.

The DOE says if the allegations are true, appropriate action will be taken.

http://bronx.ny1.com/content/top_sto...school-toilets

[knight_shadow]

Content-wise: That's terrible. Students (actually, anyone who's not a janitor) shouldn't be cleaning up waste, etc.

Journalism-wise: I'm upset that those are the BEST quotes they were able to gather. At least use partial quotes to make these kids sound SOMEWHAT intelligent.

"Like, that was, like, nasty to, like, clean, like, toilets. Like." - Fareal?

[PiKA2001]

Poor little divas. I take it none of these kids have an after school job at a restaurant or plan on joining the military after graduation?

I see nothing wrong with this. I like the idea of having kids do chores around the school, it's a lot more productive than having them sit in a room for an hour (detention).

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Poor little divas. I take it none of these kids have an after school job at a restaurant or plan on joining the military after graduation?

I see nothing wrong with this. I like the idea of having kids do chores around the school, it's a lot more productive than having them sit in a room for an hour (detention).

I agree that students should be doing something productive while in detention.

I disagree that cleaning toilets (which exposes the students to waste, diseases, etc) is the way to do it.

Not sure how the job and military references fit in, since cleaning toilets is NOT the job of students.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I agree that students should be doing something productive while in detention.

I disagree that cleaning toilets (which exposes the students to waste, diseases, etc) is the way to do it.

Not sure how the job and military references fit in, since cleaning toilets is NOT the job of students.

This.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I agree that students should be doing something productive while in detention.

I disagree that cleaning toilets (which exposes the students to waste, diseases, etc) is the way to do it.

Not sure how the job and military references fit in, since cleaning toilets is NOT the job of students.

When I worked at a fast food restaurant in high school I had to clean the restrooms there. When I was in basic training, we all had to clean the latrines. Yes, it was far from pleasent but I've yet to hear of any mcdonalds employee catching Ebola and dying from mopping a bathroom floor. If these students find this form of punishment so repulsive, maybe it will encourage them to change the behaviour that landed them in detention in the first place.

[33girl]

Is this a public school?

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

When I worked at a fast food restaurant in high school I had to clean the restrooms there. When I was in basic training, we all had to clean the latrines. Yes, it was far from pleasent but I've yet to hear of any mcdonalds employee catching Ebola and dying from mopping a bathroom floor. If these students find this form of punishment so repulsive, maybe it will encourage them to change the behaviour that landed them in detention in the first place.

So you were employed? Being paid? That's exactly the point that we're making.

These students are not. There are certainly ways for them to do chores/cleaning around school that does not expose them to biohazards as a punishment.

[Animate]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Poor little divas. I take it none of these kids have an after school job at a restaurant or plan on joining the military after graduation?

I see nothing wrong with this. I like the idea of having kids do chores around the school, it's a lot more productive than having them sit in a room for an hour (detention).

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I agree that students should be doing something productive while in detention.

I disagree that cleaning toilets (which exposes the students to waste, diseases, etc) is the way to do it.

Not sure how the job and military references fit in, since cleaning toilets is NOT the job of students.

This.

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

When I worked at a fast food restaurant in high school I had to clean the restrooms there. When I was in basic training, we all had to clean the latrines. Yes, it was far from pleasent but I've yet to hear of any mcdonalds employee catching Ebola and dying from mopping a bathroom floor. If these students find this form of punishment so repulsive, maybe it will encourage them to change the behaviour that landed them in detention in the first place.

Originally Posted by Drolefille

So you were employed? Being paid? That's exactly the point that we're making.

These students are not. There are certainly ways for them to do chores/cleaning around school that does not expose them to biohazards as a punishment.

And this.

A student cleaning toilets for their job and them doing it at school are totally different situations to most people.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I agree that students should be doing something productive while in detention.

I disagree that cleaning toilets (which exposes the students to waste, diseases, etc) is the way to do it.

Not sure how the job and military references fit in, since cleaning toilets is NOT the job of students.

At the Catholic school I attended, students had to do this and worse as punishment. There were also work-study students who received full and partial tuition waivers for performing janitorial duties after school.

The danger aspect of this is rather trumped up. It's unpleasant, but detention should suck.

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by Kevin

At the Catholic school I attended, students had to do this and worse as punishment. There were also work-study students who received full and partial tuition waivers for performing janitorial duties after school.

The danger aspect of this is rather trumped up. It's unpleasant, but detention should suck.

Wow. I went to an all girls Catholic highschool and we didn't have to do any of this. Saturday morning detention (in uniform) for 4 hours was bad enough.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Kevin

At the Catholic school I attended, students had to do this and worse as punishment. There were also work-study students who received full and partial tuition waivers for performing janitorial duties after school.

The danger aspect of this is rather trumped up. It's unpleasant, but detention should suck.

I've worked retail and my parents were both military. I'm no stranger to cleaning strange shit.

The bolded is the point, though. Those students received some sort of compensation for their duties. It wasn't used as a punishment. Your (general) school curriculum doesn't consist of learning and other duties as assigned.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I've worked retail and my parents were both military. I'm no stranger to cleaning strange shit.

The bolded is the point, though. Those students received some sort of compensation for their duties. It wasn't used as a punishment. Your (general) school curriculum doesn't consist of learning and other duties as assigned.

Some schools still include discipline and respect as part of the educational experience. When you lack discipline and respect for your teachers, there ought to be painful consequences. In the past, that meant corporal punishment, now it means cleaning up disgusting stuff--typically, starting early in the morning on a weekend.

[agzg]

If they were wearing proper biohazard equipment and had been trained properly in dealing with biohazardous materials I don't have a problem with it but I somehow doubt that was the case.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by agzg

If they were wearing proper biohazard equipment and had been trained properly in dealing with biohazardous materials I don't have a problem with it but I somehow doubt that was the case.

I think a pair of latex gloves would be adequate. Y'all are overly germaphobic here about these "disease spewing" toilets. You are probably exposed to the same amount of airborne germs using the toilets as you are cleaning them.