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Nanners52674 06-16-2010 04:19 PM

Claim: Bronx Students Forced To Clean School Toilets
 
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Department of Education officials are investigating after students at a Bronx school claimed they were forced to clean toilets as a punishment.

Some students at In-Tech Academy in Kingsbridge say they were assigned janitorial duties as part of their detention as recently as last week.

"After school the principal came in with the inspector lady and she was like 'Oh, everyone has to pitch in and clean the toilets and stuff.' So we was cleaning them and we had to clean around them and nasty, it was just mad nasty," said one student.

"Like that's not cool, like making kids clean toilets like that's not how that should go," said another student.

The DOE says if the allegations are true, appropriate action will be taken.
http://bronx.ny1.com/content/top_sto...school-toilets

knight_shadow 06-16-2010 04:22 PM

Content-wise: That's terrible. Students (actually, anyone who's not a janitor) shouldn't be cleaning up waste, etc.

Journalism-wise: I'm upset that those are the BEST quotes they were able to gather. At least use partial quotes to make these kids sound SOMEWHAT intelligent.

"Like, that was, like, nasty to, like, clean, like, toilets. Like." - Fareal?

PiKA2001 06-16-2010 05:03 PM

Poor little divas. I take it none of these kids have an after school job at a restaurant or plan on joining the military after graduation?

I see nothing wrong with this. I like the idea of having kids do chores around the school, it's a lot more productive than having them sit in a room for an hour (detention).

knight_shadow 06-16-2010 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 1943714)
Poor little divas. I take it none of these kids have an after school job at a restaurant or plan on joining the military after graduation?

I see nothing wrong with this. I like the idea of having kids do chores around the school, it's a lot more productive than having them sit in a room for an hour (detention).

I agree that students should be doing something productive while in detention.

I disagree that cleaning toilets (which exposes the students to waste, diseases, etc) is the way to do it.

Not sure how the job and military references fit in, since cleaning toilets is NOT the job of students.

Drolefille 06-16-2010 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1943721)
I agree that students should be doing something productive while in detention.

I disagree that cleaning toilets (which exposes the students to waste, diseases, etc) is the way to do it.

Not sure how the job and military references fit in, since cleaning toilets is NOT the job of students.

This.

PiKA2001 06-16-2010 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1943721)
I agree that students should be doing something productive while in detention.

I disagree that cleaning toilets (which exposes the students to waste, diseases, etc) is the way to do it.

Not sure how the job and military references fit in, since cleaning toilets is NOT the job of students.

When I worked at a fast food restaurant in high school I had to clean the restrooms there. When I was in basic training, we all had to clean the latrines. Yes, it was far from pleasent but I've yet to hear of any mcdonalds employee catching Ebola and dying from mopping a bathroom floor. If these students find this form of punishment so repulsive, maybe it will encourage them to change the behaviour that landed them in detention in the first place.

33girl 06-16-2010 05:52 PM

Is this a public school?

agzg 06-16-2010 05:53 PM

If they were wearing proper biohazard equipment and had been trained properly in dealing with biohazardous materials I don't have a problem with it but I somehow doubt that was the case.

Drolefille 06-16-2010 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 1943735)
When I worked at a fast food restaurant in high school I had to clean the restrooms there. When I was in basic training, we all had to clean the latrines. Yes, it was far from pleasent but I've yet to hear of any mcdonalds employee catching Ebola and dying from mopping a bathroom floor. If these students find this form of punishment so repulsive, maybe it will encourage them to change the behaviour that landed them in detention in the first place.

So you were employed? Being paid? That's exactly the point that we're making.

These students are not. There are certainly ways for them to do chores/cleaning around school that does not expose them to biohazards as a punishment.

PiKA2001 06-16-2010 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 1943741)
If they were wearing proper biohazard equipment and had been trained properly in dealing with biohazardous materials I don't have a problem with it but I somehow doubt that was the case.

I think a pair of latex gloves would be adequate. Y'all are overly germaphobic here about these "disease spewing" toilets. You are probably exposed to the same amount of airborne germs using the toilets as you are cleaning them.

cheerfulgreek 06-16-2010 06:04 PM

Cleaning bathrooms? That's sick. If they're in detention, that time should be used to study, not clean bathrooms. They should make detention on Saturday mornings from 8am to 12pm. That's how it was when I was in highschool. At first it was just an hour after school, but when they changed it to 4 hours on Saturdays, the number of students in detention went way down. I mean, who wants to get up at 7am on a Saturday to just sit in a classroom from 8am to noon?

PiKA2001 06-16-2010 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek (Post 1943748)
Cleaning bathrooms? That's sick. If they're in detention, that time should be used to study, not clean bathrooms. They should make detention on Saturday mornings from 8am to 12pm. That's how it was when I was in highschool. At first it was just an hour after school, but when they changed it to 4 hours on Saturdays, the number of students in detention went way down. I mean, who wants to get up at 7am on a Saturday to just sit in a classroom from 8am to noon?

F*ck that, I would of cleaned a bathroom any day over a Saturday detention. That's just sadistic.

cheerfulgreek 06-16-2010 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 1943752)
F*ck that, I would of cleaned a bathroom any day over a Saturday detention. That's just sadistic.

lol
Hilarious! No one did. We all hated it. It happened to me once. Although, I got a lot of studying done that morning, I still hated it. But see how effective it is at keeping kids out of trouble? Plus, I don't think parents would have anywhere near as many objections to a 4 hour Saturday morning detention, like they would having their child forced to clean up feces and urine. That's just disgusting.

Drolefille 06-16-2010 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 1943744)
I think a pair of latex gloves would be adequate. Y'all are overly germaphobic here about these "disease spewing" toilets. You are probably exposed to the same amount of airborne germs using the toilets as you are cleaning them.

Then make your own kids clean toilets at home. It's a far cry from having untrained kids using industrial cleaners in a setting where there are rules and restrictions for safety for paid employees that are unlikely to be followed by unpaid, punished, children.

Drolefille 06-16-2010 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek (Post 1943758)
lol
Hilarious! No one did. We all hated it. It happened to me once. Although, I got a lot of studying done that morning, I still hated it. But see how effective it is at keeping kids out of trouble? Plus, I don't think parents would have anywhere near as many objections to a 4 hour Saturday morning detention, like they would having their child forced to clean up feces and urine. That's just disgusting.

I'm pro-Saturday detentions, parents don't like having to drive the kids there, kids don't like being there, all sorts of motivation not to screw up.


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