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11-12-2008, 08:41 PM
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She just won't go away peacefully into the night
Palin says she'd be honored to help Obama
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Gov. Sarah Palin said Wednesday that she would be honored to help President-elect Barack Obama in his new administration, even if he did hang around with an "unrepentant domestic terrorist."
The Alaska governor said in an interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer that she would be willing to help if Obama asked her for assistance on some of the issues she highlighted during this year's campaign, such as energy or services for special-needs children.
"It would be my honor to assist and support our new president and the new administration," said Palin, whom Sen. John McCain chose as his running mate in August.
"I speak for other Republicans and Republican governors, also," she said.
"They would be willing also to seize this opportunity that we have to progress this nation together, in a united front." Watch CNN's Wolf Blitzer interview Palin »
But asked moments later about some of the tough rhetoric she hurled from the stump, she said she was "still concerned" about Obama's ties to former Weather Underground member-turned-Chicago college professor William Ayers.
"If anybody still wants to talk about it, I will," she said. "Because this is an unrepentant domestic terrorist who had campaigned to blow up, to destroy our Pentagon and our U.S. Capitol.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/12/palin/index.html
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11-12-2008, 08:48 PM
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It's the polite thing to do, as part of the losing ticket, to say she would like to help Obama. I'd like to think a lot of people, not just Palin, have realized that we need to put political parties aside and unify as a nation.
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11-12-2008, 08:57 PM
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It's the polite thing to do, as part of the losing ticket, to say she would like to help Obama. I'd like to think a lot of people, not just Palin, have realized that we need to put political parties aside and unify as a nation.
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true, but if i were republican, and i watched her constantly go after him and degrade his character, it would make me wonder if you were lying before to us...because why would she really want to go help someone who "pals around with terrorists"?? dont get me wrong, i would say the same thing of Obama if he bad-mouthed McCain, and i held Hilary to the same standards when she was running her mouth about Obama...
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11-12-2008, 09:03 PM
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true, but if i were republican, and i watched her constantly go after him and degrade his character, it would make me wonder if you were lying before to us...because why would she really want to go help someone who "pals around with terrorists"?? dont get me wrong, i would say the same thing of Obama if he bad-mouthed McCain, and i held Hilary to the same standards when she was running her mouth about Obama...
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I mean, in theory . . . there should be a higher ideal (namely, the betterment of the United States of America) at play, regardless of rhetoric or even personal feelings, no?
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11-12-2008, 09:29 PM
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yes...it's called the Warmup Round for 2012
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11-12-2008, 10:12 PM
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yes...it's called the Warmup Round for 2012
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Oh please, I know even staunch republicans who wouldn't vote for her. She might like to think she will be a viable candidate, but there are others who would be far better choices.
This is my complaint with American politics....we need a viable 3rd party. I'm not 100% dem, I'm not 100% republican. We need a middle of the road party.
Who's with me?
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11-12-2008, 09:33 PM
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I mean, in theory . . . there should be a higher ideal (namely, the betterment of the United States of America) at play, regardless of rhetoric or even personal feelings, no?
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oh absolutely...i just believe that depending on what you say about an apponent, it can damage your credibility in some citizens eyes. i have enough common sense to know that hey, they are politicians, so 85% of what is said is a lie, but after hearing from people in public different Obama rumors (muslim, doesnt stand for the flag, wont be sworn in with a bible, etc) and the people who actually take what is said as gospel, they will be the ones wondering why she is now helping him.
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11-12-2008, 09:53 PM
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oh absolutely...i just believe that depending on what you say about an apponent, it can damage your credibility in some citizens eyes. i have enough common sense to know that hey, they are politicians, so 85% of what is said is a lie, but after hearing from people in public different Obama rumors (muslim, doesnt stand for the flag, wont be sworn in with a bible, etc) and the people who actually take what is said as gospel, they will be the ones wondering why she is now helping him.
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Bingo....thus the whole point of me posting this thread.
You talk shyte about me last week and now this week you want to be my friend.....
Hand out ready to be shaken but I need to be prepared for the dagger behind your back....as it were.
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11-13-2008, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX
oh absolutely...i just believe that depending on what you say about an apponent, it can damage your credibility in some citizens eyes. i have enough common sense to know that hey, they are politicians, so 85% of what is said is a lie, but after hearing from people in public different Obama rumors (muslim, doesnt stand for the flag, wont be sworn in with a bible, etc) and the people who actually take what is said as gospel, they will be the ones wondering why she is now helping him.
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So . . . wouldn't that add credibility/legitimacy to the Obama camp?
I mean, the people that believe her as "gospel" clearly aren't smart enough to think critically on their own, according to what you're implying here, so sacrificing her own credibility for (an apparent) holistic or 'greater' good seems like a no-brainer if she ever wants to run again (since she's not really sacrificing anything).
She kind of has to say this, both for her political and patriotic well-being, doesn't she?
Besides this, as much as Palin is indeed awkward, stilted and lost, I don't consider it disingenuous in the slightest to say that you'd work with someone who you feel is a poor choice because it's for the best to do that rather than continue fighting . . . it's somewhat like staying together for the kids.
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11-13-2008, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX
true, but if i were republican, and i watched her constantly go after him and degrade his character, it would make me wonder if you were lying before to us...because why would she really want to go help someone who "pals around with terrorists"?? dont get me wrong, i would say the same thing of Obama if he bad-mouthed McCain, and i held Hilary to the same standards when she was running her mouth about Obama...
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I thinks Gov. Palin has overreached a bit with this latest statement. Most politicians will "embellish" on the campaign trail. We don't really know the extent to which Palin really felt Obama "palled around with terrorists" and was bad for the country, or if she was following the McCain campaign attack points...we'll probably have to just wait for her book.
She'd have been better off in this instance just saying she wished the new president well, and was hoping for the best, not saying that she was "proud" of him. That strains the credulity of even the most casual political observer, never mind people who really follow the political process.
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11-13-2008, 11:35 AM
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I thinks Gov. Palin has overreached a bit with this latest statement. Most politicians will "embellish" on the campaign trail. We don't really know the extent to which Palin really felt Obama "palled around with terrorists" and was bad for the country, or if she was following the McCain campaign attack points...we'll probably have to just wait for her book.
She'd have been better off in this instance just saying she wished the new president well, and was hoping for the best, not saying that she was "proud" of him. That strains the credulity of even the most casual political observer, never mind people who really follow the political process.
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Well put!
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11-14-2008, 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by TonyB06
I thinks Gov. Palin has overreached a bit with this latest statement. Most politicians will "embellish" on the campaign trail. We don't really know the extent to which Palin really felt Obama "palled around with terrorists" and was bad for the country, or if she was following the McCain campaign attack points...we'll probably have to just wait for her book.
She'd have been better off in this instance just saying she wished the new president well, and was hoping for the best, not saying that she was "proud" of him. That strains the credulity of even the most casual political observer, never mind people who really follow the political process.
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Very well stated, and I especially agree with the bolded. She no longer has to be Obama's opponent, but Palin's sudden desire to help and any other warm fuzzy sunshine sentiments she could offer still makes her look like a comic book character: Two-Face.
I think she's prepping for 2012 in any way possible because, as they say in Alaska, there's more than one way to skin a moose.
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11-15-2008, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX
true, but if i were republican, and i watched her constantly go after him and degrade his character, it would make me wonder if you were lying before to us...because why would she really want to go help someone who "pals around with terrorists"?? dont get me wrong, i would say the same thing of Obama if he bad-mouthed McCain, and i held Hilary to the same standards when she was running her mouth about Obama...
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Apparently that could be a higher standard than Obama is holding Hillary to...if reports that he is considering her for Secretary of State are true.
I think it would be helpful to have everyone move on here and get down to the serious and substantive issues facing our President-elect. He needs the support and best wishes of all Americans and I choose to believe that Palin made her remarks in that spirit. Anything else is negative energy on my part.
Many things are said in a campaign, and things Gov. Palin said regarding William Ayers weren't without some basis in fact. I am of that era when Bill Ayers and his compatriots were blowing things up - uh, just buildings, eh? I don't think so. I wonder what Mr. Ayers would say if someone just took radical exception to his positions here and now and just "blew up a building" - his house, for example? Sort of like the residence of the judge?
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11-12-2008, 10:06 PM
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lol! all that mud...
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11-12-2008, 10:08 PM
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Yea.. I have a feeling Mr. Obama will not be needing her services.
Bless her heart!
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