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Old 11-06-2008, 09:29 PM
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Internal Battles Divided McCain and Palin Camps

Seems as if, in only 48 hours, the knives have come out between the GOP.
I first heard of this on CNN which interviewed one of the writers on Newsweek's' story (which I think will be in next weeks issue).
Found it as well in New York Times.
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PHOENIX — As a top adviser in Senator John McCain’s now-imploded campaign tells the story, it was bad enough that Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska unwittingly scheduled, and then took, a prank telephone call from a Canadian comedian posing as the president of France. Far worse, the adviser said, she failed to inform her ticketmate about her rogue diplomacy."....
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/06/us...q=palin&st=cse

Hackers and Spending Sprees

Highlights from NEWSWEEK's special election project.

Besides going into the problems between Gov. Palin and Sen. McCain, this also goes into the reports that BOTH Sen. McCains' and Sen. Obamas' campaign computers were hacked into by "foreign governments".
http://www.newsweek.com/id/167581
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/arc...gn_postmortem/
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Old 11-07-2008, 09:21 AM
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I think the so called sources should name themselves. If they are speaking the truth and arent ashamed why hide? Cowards & sore losers. Sore bickering wont help the republican party heal or rebuild/whatever.

I dont believe it. If it was true I think it was a mis-speak just like Obama misspoke when he said there were 57 states.
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Old 11-10-2008, 09:28 AM
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I think the so called sources should name themselves. If they are speaking the truth and arent ashamed why hide? Cowards & sore losers. Sore bickering wont help the republican party heal or rebuild/whatever.

I dont believe it. If it was true I think it was a mis-speak just like Obama misspoke when he said there were 57 states.
Campbell Brown called it.....

Campbell Brown rips McCain aides for blaming Palin for McCain loss: ‘You picked her.’

Recently, former McCain staffers have been leaking embarrassing information about Gov. Sarah Palin’s cluelessness on foreign policy and her unprofessional behavior. Top aide Steve Schmidt wouldn’t say whether she was a good VP choice. Yesterday, CNN’s Campbell Brown excoriated these aides, noting that they were the ones who vetted Palin and trumpeted her candidacy:

BROWN: To those McCain aides who say she is the reason they lost this election… can I please remind you of one thing: you picked her. You are the ones who supposedly vetted her, and then told the American people she was qualified for the job. You are the ones who after meeting her a couple of times, told us she was ready to be just one heartbeat away from the Presidency. … If Sarah Palin is the reason some voters chose Barack Obama, that is no one’s fault but your own..

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/11/07/...l-brown-palin/
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Old 11-07-2008, 09:35 AM
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These must be the same 'sources' which have been saying that Palin didn't know Africa was a continent (rather than a country).
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Old 11-07-2008, 10:09 AM
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There's this belief in Presidential history that you can't accurately judge a President's administration for a number of years. I forget the exact number, but I think the point is to let history play out, then take an objective look (as much as possible) about that President's policies and how they shaped the future.

I tend to think the same of Presidential campaigns. The emotions are too raw right after the election, especially on the losing side. I would take anything that comes out with a grain of salt. In a few years, people will be better able to tell the story without most of the emotional baggage.
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Old 11-07-2008, 10:38 AM
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There's this belief in Presidential history that you can't accurately judge a President's administration for a number of years. I forget the exact number, but I think the point is to let history play out, then take an objective look (as much as possible) about that President's policies and how they shaped the future.

I tend to think the same of Presidential campaigns. The emotions are too raw right after the election, especially on the losing side. I would take anything that comes out with a grain of salt. In a few years, people will be better able to tell the story without most of the emotional baggage.
I think you're right on both points.
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Old 11-07-2008, 10:20 AM
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Old 11-07-2008, 06:31 PM
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"Sarah Palin thinks the alphabet has 22 letters. "
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Old 11-07-2008, 06:51 PM
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Links to all seven chapters on Newsweeks story listed here:
http://www.newsweek.com/
Highlights: Hackers and Spending Sprees


Ch. 1: Barack Obama: How He Did It


Ch. 2: John McCain: Back From the Dead?


Ch. 3: The Long Clinton-Obama Siege


Ch. 4: McCain Camp Retools, Targets Obama


Ch. 5: Obama Sweats the Clintons, McCain Gambles on Palin


Ch. 6: Battling it Out in the Great Debates


Ch. 7: The Final Days
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Old 11-07-2008, 06:56 PM
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I really wish there were some sort of objective and reliable recording of what happened some of the stuff reported about Palin. It's certainly possible that I've just been giving Palin way too much credit, but some of the accusations this week are really mind boggling. I'd love to know if they really happened and if so, what context they occurred in.

Did she really not know the countries in North American or did she wonder if somehow other countries were included in NAFTA? (It would be goofy still, but sometimes the names we give to organizations that seem geographic aren't really limited that way and maybe she was afraid she missed coverage of other countries in the Americas joining the agreement. I don't know. If she lives in Alaska, how could she not know Canada was involved and how could anyone not know Mexico was involved? It's actually mind boggling.) Did she misspeak about Africa or really not know it was a continent? It's one thing to be kind of dumb, but it would seem really almost impossible that one could be a college graduate and be that bad off.
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Old 11-07-2008, 08:19 PM
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I really wish there were some sort of objective and reliable recording of what happened some of the stuff reported about Palin. It's certainly possible that I've just been giving Palin way too much credit, but some of the accusations this week are really mind boggling.
No kidding...heh
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Old 11-08-2008, 12:04 AM
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t's one thing to be kind of dumb, but it would seem really almost impossible that one could be a college graduate and be that bad off.
Dan Quayle?
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Old 11-08-2008, 12:18 AM
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Dan Quayle?
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Old 11-08-2008, 12:21 PM
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Dan Quayle?
I think Dan's stupidity was greatly exaggerated. He said dumb stuff sure, but do you think you could graduate from college, law school and pass the Indiana bar if you were actually as dumb as some of his quotes made him seem?

Maybe, but it seems more likely to me that he just didn't think as much as he should have as he was speaking.

I mean, we have a couple of Biden comments that would place him in the running for this kind of stupid too, but I doubt that most people who think that Palin and Quayle are really this stupid would accept that Biden is.
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Old 11-07-2008, 11:53 AM
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I also think these anonymous McCain aides are cowards.

They had been setting her up as a scapegoat for a month and she even apologized if she lost McCain any votes. That seems as poorly crafted as a lot of things that happened during McCain's campaign. It's ridiculous how much the McCain campaign began to bail out of this election and allow Palin to get the majority of the attention. It's like they just gave up. I believe it was all so they can say she was "going rogue" or that her perceived stupidity was unbeknownst to McCain and his aides.

I've heard Palin called "diamond in the rough" and that she just needs some grooming. If that's the case, McCain people should've known that the fancy clothes and tutoring sessions were a total waste.
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