University of Mississippi (Ole Miss) 2012 Recruitment

[Titchou]

Originally Posted by 33girl

I'm assuming that the houses/land conditions are such that they can only build out, not build up? (i.e. put more stories on top)

You can only add stories if the original structure was designed to support it from an engineering point of view - or you have enough money to shore it up - if that's possible with the design.

As for adding groups, what happens more often when they want to add more than one is that they stack them - what happened to us at Alabama as we were offered the slot after Alpha Phi but it was put off an additional year as the land situation was not approved by the BOT. At UAB when we went on, we were offered the first slot and Alpha Xi Delta the second one, supposed to be two years after. It ended up being 3 years (or maybe 4) as campus conditions didn't warrant it after the second year.

So, all this is to say that the group or the campus can decide to move it out a year - or more - if need be.

[irishpipes]

I think bringing on 4 at once would create more opportunity for stigma than letting each group have their moment in the sun. I think it might be more plausible to bring on 2 and then stack the other 2 for future expansion if conditions are still favorable. If I were one of the 4 presenting and all 4 were chosen, I would back out.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by irishpipes

I think bringing on 4 at once would create more opportunity for stigma than letting each group have their moment in the sun. I think it might be more plausible to bring on 2 and then stack the other 2 for future expansion if conditions are still favorable. If I were one of the 4 presenting and all 4 were chosen, I would back out.

Oh, no way would 4 work, I was just wondering if you see 1 at a time or 2 at a time as a better way to go.

[HQWest]

Two or two stacked is a better way to go. It gives them a chance to build up a sisterhood (and a house) without having to be the new kid on the block all the time. Honestly - Ole Miss or Arkansas can handle a 10-15% reduction in expected quota. Any new house that comes on needs a commitment for fair and competitive comparable housing. Its in the NPC groups and the university's best interest. If they try to say "let's bring on all four unhoused!" - I would bail.

Kinda like the job market - if you just hire one person and you might not be able to hire again for ten years, who wants to be low guy on the totem pole forever?

[OleMissGlitter]

Four at a time would be crazy. Plus I believe there is a rule/policy with NPC that only 1 group can colonize at a time. (Arkansas had special permission to do what they are doing from what I heard.)

I think the reasoning they want to announce before recruitment is so the selected group(s) can come and view recruitment in September. That way they can start their planning and their PR/Marketing. Our administration/Greek Life at Ole Miss is doing a wonderful job for making this process as wonderful as possible.

[AZTheta]

awwwwww... I love everybody! Have spent the day sitting in a criminal jury trial and came home to all these awesome comments. Not a single flame (disappointed) although OMG got my hopes up when she started with the "four at a time would be crazy". Having met her personally, I was really hoping for a smack down, Southern Style. Alas, not to be.

Seriously, I want to say thanks for all the responses; it's given me a fresh look at what Ole Miss is facing, and a lot to think about. Back to the main topic (because I don't want to get excommunicated for being off-topic, even if I have ADA protection because of my ADHD)! Oh and in case anyone is curious, I have to go back tomorrow for day three. Have pity on me.

[BAckbOwlsgIrl]

Okay, Debbie Downer in the house here.

I know that these greek communities are bursting at the seems. It has been going on for a few years if not more. However, I cannot stress the importance of letting these two organizations succeed first prior to bringing on more organizations. I think that one or two at time is enough. Then wait 4 or 5 years. I know of one campus that had 5 orgs come on in 4 years. It might have been 4 in 4 years. They had the numbers to back it, until the numbers took a drop and downward they went. It was brutal. Stupid. Absolutely reckless beyond belief with little forethought.
Of those that came on, only one or two remain. The rest went off campus as well as two other organizations previously on campus. Trust me, you DON'T want to go there/that route. It SUCKS REALLY BAD.

What happens when numbers go down?
What is the plan for the worst case scenario? Have everyone live in like they do at Indiana?
Might work, might not.

Everyone thinks that it won't happen until it does.
And no, we are not talking the 70's.

[irishpipes]

Originally Posted by BAckbOwlsgIrl

Okay, Debbie Downer in the house here.

I know that these greek communities are bursting at the seems. It has been going on for a few years if not more. However, I cannot stress the importance of letting these two organizations succeed first prior to bringing on more organizations. I think that one or two at time is enough. Then wait 4 or 5 years. I know of one campus that had 5 orgs come on in 4 years. It might have been 4 in 4 years. They had the numbers to back it, until the numbers took a drop and downward they went. It was brutal. Stupid. Absolutely reckless beyond belief with little forethought.
Of those that came on, only one or two remain. The rest went off campus as well as two other organizations previously on campus. Trust me, you DON'T want to go there/that route. It SUCKS REALLY BAD.

What happens when numbers go down?
What is the plan for the worst case scenario? Have everyone live in like they do at Indiana?
Might work, might not.

Everyone thinks that it won't happen until it does.
And no, we are not talking the 70's.

I agree with this post so much. Just because Greek life is hot right now, doesn't mean that growth will continue forever. Let's not go too crazy with expansion that can't be sustained when trends turn downward, which they will. Ebbs and flows are inevitable.

Also, at some of these ultra-competitive campuses, it can take a long time to become established. In my book that takes a lot more than mere numbers. There are still chapters at Ole Miss that are perceived as "new" by many, and the most recent colonization was 1979.

[MaryPoppins]

Originally Posted by irishpipes

There are still chapters at Ole Miss that are perceived as "new" by many, and the most recent colonization was 1979.

Heck, 1935 is still considered "new" here!

"The past is never dead. It's not even past." - William Faulkner

[Titchou]

At Ole Miss, the DG house sleeps 54 - last time I checked.

As for NCSU, KD colonized last year (I think it was). With the stalled Greek Village project, am not sure that the other colonizations will proceed on time. Only one house has been built and of the remaining 3 in Phase 1, none are ready to start. Without that phase completed or at least pretty fully underway, they can't even demolish the old houses that were due to go this year. Things are way behind there.

[Gingerdeltaz]

I'm waiting on pins and needles for Ole Miss to make the announcement of who will be colonizing....so Ole Miss Glitter or Mary Poppins...PLEASE share the info as soon as you hear. (If that sounded like begging, its because it was.)

[MaryPoppins]

Cherrio and Titchou, for the good of the order, please clarify that you are not talking about Ole Miss in post 310 and post 311. Thank you, M.P.

[Titchou]

OMG, no! I mentioned UAB and that is what I am talking about and assumed Cherrio was responding to that as I know some people "think" we turned down offers to colonize at UAB but that was not the case. We turned down the opportunity to be considered. I was the interim GA at one point in that time period.

[MaryPoppins]

Originally Posted by Titchou

OMG, no! I mentioned UAB and that is what I am talking about and assumed Cherrio was responding to that as I know some people "think" we turned down offers to colonize at UAB but that was not the case. We turned down the opportunity to be considered. I was the interim GA at one point in that time period.

Thank you! It's easy to lose track in these longer threads I think.

[azureblue]

Per the official Alpha Delta Pi Facebook page:

We are thrilled to share that Alpha Delta Pi has been selected to colonize at Ole Miss in Fall 2013! We can’t wait to “Come Home” to the Ole Miss Panhellenic community!

WOO HOO! <>