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07-01-2006, 11:27 PM
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I wonder if those who are pursuing Delta will take the info they receive from the movie as gospel instead of doing their research and reading ISOS. I'm deeply concerned, especially if this movie has inaccuracies. What do ya'll think of this?
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Only the idiots will be moved to the point of this movie becoming the undeniable truth without doing further research--before or after the informational.
Moving forward, Sorors.
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07-03-2006, 07:02 PM
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interesting.....
So I was surfing the net and looked at DELTANet (and I know the back story) but she is doing exactly what Soror President has asked not to happen. There is also this letter that appears on the site as well. Comments?
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"If You Ask Me, by Frankie Lou"
The Baltimore Afro-American
June 17, 2006 - June 23, 2006
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DEREK FORDJOUR, producer of "The Black Sorority Projecy: The Exodus", the story of Delta Sigma Theta, a groundbreaking documentary, has invited me to New York for the screening of the film. The producer's disclaimer states: "The Black Sorority Project is an independent historical initiative and is in no way funded, supported, endorsed or promoted by the present day organization Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc. The views expressed herein are objective, unbiased and based solely on scholarship and historical record."
Following Fordjour's invitation came a letter from the national president of Delta stating: "Many of you may have received invitations to, or have heard about, the first public viewing and screening of a painting and film entitled: "Black Sorority Project, The Exodus" (that supposedly is about the history of Delta). Please be advised that the Executive Board has taken action not to "in anyway, endorse, support, sponsor, approve of, or [become] involved in this project” or any project marketed under a slightly different name.
My Mom, Vashti Turley Murphy, was one of the founders of this sorority and is featured in this documentary, so I AM GOING TO SEE IT. I have also been asked to participate in the unveiling of the portrait of these founders, which I will do.
Derek, who is the producer of the film, is a good Alpha Phi Alpha brother like my late dad, Carl Murphy, and a graduate of Morehouse. He has assured me that the film is based onhistorical facts.
I cannot judge something I have not seen. Nor do I purport to know all the facts about the founding of this sorority at Howard University back in 1913, but I know quite a bit of what went on "inside" because my mom talked about her Howard University friends and Delta all of the time. Thus, maybe I can be a fair judge of what is historical. We'll see,
If you are a Delta soror (and there are over 200,000 college educated women who are members) and you attend this screening either in New York or Philadelphia, let me hear what you think.
Frances L. Murphy II
The Afro-American Newspaper
2519 N. Charles Street
Baltimore, MD 21218-4602
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07-03-2006, 07:58 PM
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Soror you know they will. Then they'll be salty, with the sorority, when they don't make it. I'm very upset that not only are non-Deltas supporting this venture but so are many sorors and other NPHC members. Also, from what I've been hearing, not only does the movie have inaccuracies but the portrait does, as well. 
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BOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!  You've confirmed what I've been feeling since I heard about it last year.
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Only the idiots will be moved to the point of this movie becoming the undeniable truth without doing further research--before or after the informational.
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Good point!
On what Soror Orighu posted: I could somewhat understand how Francis Murphy is coming from because as a daughter of a founder, she would probably like to see how her mother and the 21 other founders are shown and to also see if the story in the movie is accurate. Now if she sees something that is not true, that would cause many problems. She is also probably soliciting feedback from the sorors who do see it to see if they feel the same way. I'm interested on the followup to this story.
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07-04-2006, 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by orighu
So I was surfing the net and looked at DELTANet (and I know the back story) but she is doing exactly what Soror President has asked not to happen. There is also this letter that appears on the site as well. Comments?
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"If You Ask Me, by Frankie Lou"
The Baltimore Afro-American
June 17, 2006 - June 23, 2006
Page A3
DEREK FORDJOUR, producer of "The Black Sorority Projecy: The Exodus", the story of Delta Sigma Theta, a groundbreaking documentary, has invited me to New York for the screening of the film. The producer's disclaimer states: "The Black Sorority Project is an independent historical initiative and is in no way funded, supported, endorsed or promoted by the present day organization Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc. The views expressed herein are objective, unbiased and based solely on scholarship and historical record."
Following Fordjour's invitation came a letter from the national president of Delta stating: "Many of you may have received invitations to, or have heard about, the first public viewing and screening of a painting and film entitled: "Black Sorority Project, The Exodus" (that supposedly is about the history of Delta). Please be advised that the Executive Board has taken action not to "in anyway, endorse, support, sponsor, approve of, or [become] involved in this project” or any project marketed under a slightly different name.
My Mom, Vashti Turley Murphy, was one of the founders of this sorority and is featured in this documentary, so I AM GOING TO SEE IT. I have also been asked to participate in the unveiling of the portrait of these founders, which I will do.
Derek, who is the producer of the film, is a good Alpha Phi Alpha brother like my late dad, Carl Murphy, and a graduate of Morehouse. He has assured me that the film is based onhistorical facts.
I cannot judge something I have not seen. Nor do I purport to know all the facts about the founding of this sorority at Howard University back in 1913, but I know quite a bit of what went on "inside" because my mom talked about her Howard University friends and Delta all of the time. Thus, maybe I can be a fair judge of what is historical. We'll see,
If you are a Delta soror (and there are over 200,000 college educated women who are members) and you attend this screening either in New York or Philadelphia, let me hear what you think.
Frances L. Murphy II
The Afro-American Newspaper
2519 N. Charles Street
Baltimore, MD 21218-4602
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I guess I'll bite.....
I ain't mad at her. That's her momma who also happens to be an Illustrious Founder. LOL.
Maybe this whole thing has turned into a bigger deal than it should be. That remains to be seen so I dunno. I wasn't going to see it before President Rice's letter--because I wasn't intrigued enough to see it--so I'm not really doing anything differently now that there is a formal request for Sorors to boycott it. Other than letting Sorors know the formal request has been made, that is.
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07-04-2006, 11:17 AM
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I guess I'll bite.....
I ain't mad at her. That's her momma who also happens to be an Illustrious Founder. LOL.
Maybe this whole thing has turned into a bigger deal than it should be. That remains to be seen so I dunno. I wasn't going to see it before President Rice's letter--because I wasn't intrigued enough to see it--so I'm not really doing anything differently now that there is a formal request for Sorors to boycott it. Other than letting Sorors know the formal request has been made, that is.
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Soror you and I are =>>>here<<<= with the underlined part. I never had any intentions on suppporting anything that was being produced by a non-Delta. Now I didn't view the letter, sent out by President Rice, as a boycott. I viewed it as a notice that she and EB did not support this and recommended that sorors do the same. When we say boycott, I get the vision of Deltas standing outside the screening with picket signs, yelling, etc. Which is definitely not what we would do nor is that what President Rice and the EB suggests, IMO. Just my $19.13.
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07-04-2006, 01:38 PM
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What I find interesting is the inaccuracies of the painting. (A pic is on the website.) There is a link to post comments that has been de-activated since a soror wrote to question the inaccuracies.
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07-04-2006, 01:39 PM
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Soror you and I are =>>>here<<<= with the underlined part. I never had any intentions on suppporting anything that was being produced by a non-Delta. Now I didn't view the letter, sent out by President Rice, as a boycott. I viewed it as a notice that she and EB did not support this and recommended that sorors do the same. When we say boycott, I get the vision of Deltas standing outside the screening with picket signs, yelling, etc. Which is definitely not what we would do nor is that what President Rice and the EB suggests, IMO. Just my $19.13. 
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My reasoning had nothing to do with it being a nonDelta but instead with my not being in a rush to see that story in the form of a movie. Maybe that makes me a "bad Delta," or something. LOL.
Soror, you're talking about picketing.  Boycotts don't have to take the form of picketing. On that note, President Rice's message at first appeared to be a boycott to me. But upon reading it for the umpteenth time, it seems more like she's asking Sorors to be clear that the movie is not endorsed and to not create the impression that it is endorsed. Perhaps this does not preclude individual Sorors who decide to go see the movie on their own time because they are interested in it.
Of course, I'm still not seeing it--unless Tyler Perry (who I've begun to like over the past month) puts out a "Madea Learns About Delta Sigma Theta."
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07-04-2006, 01:43 PM
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I guess I'll bite.....
I ain't mad at her. That's her momma who also happens to be an Illustrious Founder. LOL.
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Yep. And Frankie is a much older soror who may not see the inaccuracies of some of the symbolisms to which she refers. I have also read (from the source) that her involvement was initiated by BeeJae. So that tells you something right there.
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07-04-2006, 05:12 PM
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What I find interesting is the inaccuracies of the painting. (A pic is on the website.) There is a link to post comments that has been de-activated since a soror wrote to question the inaccuracies.
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I noticed that as well (the comments not available anymore).....
i question the motives of the 'creators' as has been previously discussed on this thread. According to the website you can have both the dvd and portrait for a mere $125 - now that's a steal - NOT  That doesn't really appear to be just a history making, telling a story documentary motive.
Unfortunately there are lots of young ladies who will get information from BeeJay and patron the film assuming information that would assist them in the future. I think what upsets me most is that Soror President asked that Soror's not encourage and she does just that.....
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07-04-2006, 05:25 PM
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Unfortunately there are lots of young ladies who will get information from BeeJay and patron the film assuming information that would assist them in the future. I think what upsets me most is that Soror President asked that Soror's not encourage and she does just that.....
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Well...don't let that upset you. There's a story behind everything.
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07-04-2006, 08:38 PM
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Soror you and I are =>>>here<<<= with the underlined part. I never had any intentions on suppporting anything that was being produced by a non-Delta. Now I didn't view the letter, sent out by President Rice, as a boycott. I viewed it as a notice that she and EB did not support this and recommended that sorors do the same. When we say boycott, I get the vision of Deltas standing outside the screening with picket signs, yelling, etc. Which is definitely not what we would do nor is that what President Rice and the EB suggests, IMO. Just my $19.13. 
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I think boycott is exactly what we SHOULD do!
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07-05-2006, 11:35 AM
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I think boycott is exactly what we SHOULD do!
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07-05-2006, 11:47 AM
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I think boycott is exactly what we SHOULD do!
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I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought this way, lol. (I have a 'thing' for boycotts and picketing, LOL)
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07-05-2006, 12:31 PM
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I too, am curious as to Soror Murphy's comments about the movie. Is it as accurate as she remembers from her mother? Is it just a way to make $$? If the movie is as historic as the producers say, why not take the necessary steps to get endorsements from those whom you depict? and many other questions..
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07-05-2006, 04:47 PM
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If the movie is as historic as the producers say, why not take the necessary steps to get endorsements from those whom you depict?
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Many films "based on true stories" and reenactments aren't endorsed.
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