UT (Texas) minority in "white" sorority

[tld221]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

If you're as hot as Dilshad Vadsaria (see: Rebecca Logan from Greek), than yes.

edit: Just realized she's Paki. Maybe you are SOL.

Not that anyone cares, but I'm pretty sure Rebecca Logan-the character-is white. Her "heritage" is never mentioned in any storyline, esp during rush. Even if she wasn't a senator's daughter, I'm sure she'd have been regarded as a white PNM.

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by tld221

Not that anyone cares, but I'm pretty sure Rebecca Logan-the character-is white. Her "heritage" is never mentioned in any storyline, esp during rush. Even if she wasn't a senator's daughter, I'm sure she'd have been regarded as a white PNM.

Haha I can't believe you delved into a character's ethnicity.

(and you're right, her father was white anyways)

But I think it serves for some sort of point, Rebecca Logan never made any deal out of whatever ethnicity she was (Partially Portuguese, apparently) and thus was regarded as a white PNM

That's something I think that many people might want to consider as a PNM.

Btw, I would totally marry Dilshad in a heartbeat.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

Haha I can't believe you delved into a character's ethnicity.

(and you're right, her father was white anyways)

But I think it serves for some sort of point, Rebecca Logan never made any deal out of whatever ethnicity she was (Partially Portuguese, apparently) and thus was regarded as a white PNM

That's something I think that many people might want to consider as a PNM.

Btw, I would totally marry Dilshad in a heartbeat.

I assume they never brought up her mother? I saw the "Father's Weekend" episode, but haven't been keeping up enough to know each character's family history.

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I assume they never brought up her mother? I saw the "Father's Weekend" episode, but haven't been keeping up enough to know each character's family history.

Nope, other than the Senator cheated on her.

knight_shadow: No, I was not. I was just saying that out of all the Indian girls I knew/met before/during rush, none of us ended up joining a sorority, either because we were cut from all of them, or because we dropped because we didn't get into any of the ones we wanted.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by DeltaIVA

No, I was not. I was just saying that out of all the Indian girls I knew/met before/during rush, none of us ended up joining a sorority, either because we were cut from all of them, or because we dropped because we didn't get into any of the ones we wanted.

So..... yeah. That'll keep you from joining.

Except the one. Who was in one that wasn't very good.

Originally Posted by agzg

Just wondering - did you (all) get dropped or did you (all) drop out because a chapter that wanted you "wasn't very good?"

I personally was cut from all of them. Most of the others I spoke to dropped out because they were cut from either the "good ones" or the ones they wanted to be a part of.

Originally Posted by LadyLonghorn

How many Juniors do you know who received bids? Or should I say how many Juniors received bids to a "good" sorority?

None, but I rushed as a freshman. I'm a Junior now.

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

She said she's a junior now, and she rushed two years ago. I think she was a freshman when she went through recruitment. That being said, she leaves a lot of holes open in her story.

Yes, that's correct-I was a freshman when I went through recruitment. I'd be happy to answer any questions you have as to the open holes in my story.

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

I disagree strongly since it's such a general statement. On some campuses it is not harder at all. It depends on the campus. I can definitely think of a few where it probably is extremely hard, but I also know of a few where it doesn't seem to make a difference. (In other words, that's an overly simplistic answer and isn't true for all schools in the south.)



You do not know whether or not your race was the reason you didn't get a bid.

Well, yes, I do not KNOW. But I am fairly sure. By philanthropy day, I only had 3 sororities invite me back, and two of them were ones that I had cut already. That early on in recruitment, I feel like there is no other reason to be cut from that many.

Originally Posted by 33girl

Oh, I missed that little comment. That clears things up.

I love when people say "I didn't get a bid because of _________" and then say something like that. Assholery is an equal opportunity employer, people.

I'm just being fair. Like I said, neither I nor any other Indian girl I met that I rushed with got in. To be fair though, I worded that very carefully because a. There is always the chance that there is an Indian girl that rushed with me or has rushed since I went through recruitment that got in, although I haven't seen any evidence of it, and b. I did see that one Indian girl in a sorority.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by DeltaIVA

Well, yes, I do not KNOW. But I am fairly sure. By philanthropy day, I only had 3 sororities invite me back, and two of them were ones that I had cut already. That early on in recruitment, I feel like there is no other reason to be cut from that many.

There are many reasons to be cut, even that early, and especially during a competitive recruitment. You don't know why you were cut.

Originally Posted by GTAlphaPhi

Firstly, I'm not denying that being a certain ethnicity or not being a certain ethnicity can cause impediments when one wants to join some chapters of GLO's (this includes NPC, NPHC, etc.) at some campuses at some points in time.

The XYZ chapter at West Cost University may not be welcoming to a certain ethnicity, but the XYZ chapter at East Coast University may be super-welcoming. Also, the trends of said chapter at West Coast and East Coast University may change over time (and obviously, the people doing the actual recruiting will change) and in ten years , you may see the opposite trends at these schools. The point is, times change, people's feelings change, and perhaps most importantly, student body demographics change (especially at public universities).

I just wanted to point out that the recruitment classes at UT Austin and many Texas/SEC schools are so incredibly legacy-heavy (where many girls are double, triple, or even more, and often chapter legacies on top of that). It's just a fact that Indian Americans and other Asian Americans generally don't have deep-rooted GLO traditions in their families (yet!).

All else being equal, a non-legacy being picked over a double legacy is just not realistic. Yes, all familial Greek roots have to start sometime and somewhere, but Texas just isn't a promising place to do that. Can a non-legacy (of any ethnicity) beat out a Texas triple-legacy (who's well-qualified in her own right) for a bid? Sure, it can happen, but said non-legacy had better have Einstein's brains, Jerry Lewis's enthusiasm for philanthropy, Miss Universe's looks, George Clooney's [perceived] personality and charm, and other talents/accomplishments as well (performing arts, athletics, etc.). You can work out the probability of that on your own.

For the record, I'm an Indian-American born and raised in the South.

I completely agree with everything you've just said. In my opinion, if they had kept me around until closer to the end of recruitment, I wouldn't have considered being dropped to be racist. In that case, I would say that of course it would mean more to a girl who's a legacy or has Greek roots to be given a bid than me. I personally feel that my rush experience was racist because I was dropped so early.

Originally Posted by kddani

Crap, someone may want to tell that to my sorority, Kappa Delta, because we've got some prominent alumnae that are Indian.

Mona Jain:
https://friends.kappadelta.org/alumn...AA/FL/jain.xml

Her daughter Anila Jain is also a KD and is Vice Chairman of our Foundation.

We even have a scholarship named after them:
https://friends.kappadelta.org/conte...dationnews.xml

And crap, I'd better tell the chapter that I advise about the no-Indian rule, because they've initiated a number of them.

I think it's wonderful that your school and sorority is so open to the Indian race. I simply mean that in my experience with the University of Texas' rush, that's definitely not the case. I make no claims of any other school's rush keeping Indians out.

[Drolefille]

Maybe you're just not a pleasant person...