Alabama Rush and First Cuts: Predetermined?

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by Greek_or_Geek?

True. But I think that we all know that even if the weak chapter had a huge breakthrough and was able to use the same techniques, PNMs would view them as desperate since they've been guzzling the tent talk koolaid.

Plenty of weak chapters do it, and we see women on here talk say things like "they wanted me so bad, it was creepy". It's like when an unattractive guy hits on you.

[Greek_or_Geek?]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Plenty of weak chapters do it, and we see women on here talk say things like "they wanted me so bad, it was creepy". It's like when an unattractive guy hits on you.

And if the favored chapters do the exact same thing, the PNMs are OMG THEY TOTES LOVE ME WHO'S GONNA BE MY BIIIIIIIIIIIIG WHEN I GET MY BID????

[AnchorAlumna]

Originally Posted by DubaiSis

This is where I think there could be discussion of going back over those 10 girls after philanthropy round and see if 1 or 2 chapters can't give them a second chance. Quota additions, if you will. Not mandatory, but requested. If each chapter took 2 girls who were released completely (maybe in order of where they fell on the flex lists), maybe that 10 would be cut down to 1 or 2 girls who were just snotty and deserve to be denied. I really think this is something that could be done by the computer with no muss/no fuss to the chapters.

Something like this was done back in the early 1970s. A certain percentage of girls were released by everybody after first round. Panhel asked that they be invited back "one more time" on a purely voluntary basis. Sometimes it worked - a PNM actually was invited back for third round and subsequently pledged. Nobody except the rush chairman and board knew exactly who that was.
Now...as far as adding them to the pledge list...I think that's going too far.

Originally Posted by Low C Sharp

Or didn't have adequate GPAs.

From what I remember of this year's recruitment, this was the case 9.8 out of 10 times.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna

Something like this was done back in the early 1970s. A certain percentage of girls were released by everybody after first round. Panhel asked that they be invited back "one more time" on a purely voluntary basis. Sometimes it worked - a PNM actually was invited back for third round and subsequently pledged. Nobody except the rush chairman and board knew exactly who that was.
Now...as far as adding them to the pledge list...I think that's going too far.

But that was different, that was when chapters had, effectively, as many invitations as they wanted to issue. If you weren't invited, they didn't see you as a fit. We are now talking about women who may have been #101 on a list of 100.

[AnchorAlumna]

Ditto Titchou above. Some of the grades I saw....I wondered why in the world did they think they had a chance? Then I remembered that if you sign up for recruitment, you can move into the dorm a week early...and presumably start your partying a week early.

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

But that was different, that was when chapters had, effectively, as many invitations as they wanted to issue. If you weren't invited, they didn't see you as a fit. We are now talking about women who may have been #101 on a list of 100.

No, it wasn't different.
We had quotas and no such thing as quota additions or snap bids. Quotas back then were between 30 and 40 (roughly), but we only had 500 women going through, not 2,000.

[Hartofsec]

Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna

Ditto Titchou above. Some of the grades I saw....I wondered why in the world did they think they had a chance? Then I remembered that if you sign up for recruitment, you can move into the dorm a week early...and presumably start your partying a week early.

As I recall, the UofA's site does not specify a minimum GPA, but does recommend a 3.0 or better. Since there are girls with less than 3.0s (and not because they took AP classes) who are offered bids by sororities at Bama, that may be why they take a chance.

Certainly less-than-stellar grades will limit a PNM's opportunities, but perhaps there is still a chance.

Remember that a number of chapters at Bama have chapter GPAs and NM GPAs that fall below those of undergrad women in general and also below non-greek undergrad women. Individual chapters determine their own definitions of "grade risk."

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna

Ditto Titchou above. Some of the grades I saw....I wondered why in the world did they think they had a chance? Then I remembered that if you sign up for recruitment, you can move into the dorm a week early...and presumably start your partying a week early.


No, it wasn't different.
We had quotas and no such thing as quota additions or snap bids. Quotas back then were between 30 and 40 (roughly), but we only had 500 women going through, not 2,000.

Oh, I didn't mean at the quota stage, I meant in earlier rounds, like we'd talked about in another thread. Yes, more women got dropped then, at the end, hence the rumors for years about being "cross-cut".