Question: Does anyone ever see the NPHC allowing inclusion of a 10th group?

[ladygreek]

Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
Strange thread.

Nothing unusual about that on here. *how are U, Sweetie?*

[Honeykiss1974]

I can't remember if this was the thread that had all the Bairds manual history in it ( and too lazy to search all the pages ) but I ran across this on Ebay and thought that that Rain Man (or any other BGLO history buff ) would be interested in it. This would be a nice addition to any orgs (or Howards) collection. And its only $8

Program of the 1st Annual Banquet - Council of Negro Fraternities & Sororities - 1935

ETA: It won't let me link it, but its Item number: 7714884468

[starang21]

Originally posted by IOTA-4A'88F
as long as you are doing right by your organization, helping the community and loving your fellow frater or soror then you don't need the acceptance of another group.

well said, frat.

[CUPrez]

I have no issue with that; matter of fact I remember a Greek Council called the New Greek Alliance (later became National Greek Alliance) back in 1997/98/99 that consisted of GLOs that was 2-5 years in existence--one of them was a sorority called Kappa Phi Iota--anybody remember that org and founder Jamilah Adkins? Anyhow the whole alliance dropped off 'cause I can't even get a Yahoo or Google search on that name.


Yes, I actually remember that! Do you know whatever happened to that organization?

[TotallyWicked]

far too lazy to read through the posts...but

Isn't Lambda Theta Alpha recognized by the NPHC? I saw a group on facebook stating they do (had an official group whose description read 'for members of the Divine Nine and associate member Lambda Theta Alpha), I saw a vid of LTA's saluting saying "recognized by the Divine Nine but proud to be the first Latin Sorority"

Someone clear this up for me

[tld221]

you got a link to this? what video? and while facebook is many a things, i think its credability is as valid as wikipedia.

i think if NPHC was recognizing LTA, more than one person wouldve heard about it...

Originally Posted by TotallyWicked

far too lazy to read through the posts...but

Isn't Lambda Theta Alpha recognized by the NPHC? I saw a group on facebook stating they do (had an official group whose description read 'for members of the Divine Nine and associate member Lambda Theta Alpha), I saw a vid of LTA's saluting saying "recognized by the Divine Nine but proud to be the first Latin Sorority"

Someone clear this up for me

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by TotallyWicked

Isn't Lambda Theta Alpha recognized by the NPHC? I saw a group on facebook stating they do (had an official group whose description read 'for members of the Divine Nine and associate member Lambda Theta Alpha), I saw a vid of LTA's saluting saying "recognized by the Divine Nine but proud to be the first Latin Sorority"

No.

Lambda Theta Alpha may be a part of a particular university's NPHC but it is not recognized nationally as such. "Recognized by the Divine Nine" is just a reference to the warm welcome they've received from some NPHCers. By saying "by" they are acknowledging that it's still the Divine Nine of which they are not a member.

[TotallyWicked]

Originally Posted by tld221

you got a link to this? what video? and while facebook is many a things, i think its credability is as valid as wikipedia.

i think if NPHC was recognizing LTA, more than one person wouldve heard about it...

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...eoid=855026268

Found that vid them stating they're recognized..the group...can't seem to find it.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by TotallyWicked

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...eoid=855026268

Found that vid them stating they're recognized..the group...can't seem to find it.

They're perhaps recognized as a legitimate group that doesn't get clowned. Nothing more than that.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Short answer: Yes, if any meet the criteria.

I doubt that any more will be able to meet the criteria, which I feel are too strict in the first place. I don't think the other nine organizations will be weakened by offering the same guidelines for development and cooperation to smaller organizations.

Does NPHC offer any type of associate membership?

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Sorry for the double-reply, but...

Does the NPHC require a group to have an AA focus? I believe there are lots of NIC and NPC groups that fit their membership requirements. What is stopping, say, Phi Mu from deciding one day that they are fed up with the strict NPC expansion rules, and deciding to petition the NPHC?

[tld221]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Sorry for the double-reply, but...

Does the NPHC require a group to have an AA focus? I believe there are lots of NIC and NPC groups that fit their membership requirements. What is stopping, say, Phi Mu from deciding one day that they are fed up with the strict NPC expansion rules, and deciding to petition the NPHC?

i dont know if this adequately answers the question:

Section 1. Affiliate Membership
Affiliate membership in NPHC shall include Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc., Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc., Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc., Zeta Phi Beta Sorority, Inc., Iota Phi Theta Fraternity, Inc., Kappa Alpha Psi Fraternity, Inc., Sigma Gamma Rho Sorority, Inc., Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity, Inc., Omega Psi Phi Fraternity, Inc. and any other affiliate organization of the NPHC as may, from time to time, be granted membership. No other organization shall have the right to sit on, or have a voice in, a local undergraduate or alumni council of NPHC, and may not be considered for membership on the local level. Affiliate membership shall also include local undergraduate and alumni councils chartered by the NPHC.

Section 8. Eligibility for Affiliate Membership. To be eligible for affiliate membership in NPHC, a fraternity or sorority which did not hold membership prior to December 1995 must meet the following requirements. The fraternity or sorority shall:

a. Be devoted to general fraternity or sorority ideals and be in conformity with the NPHC Constitution and Bylaws and the NPHC Mission Statement. (im gonna say check because there isnt much for me to believe that you dont...)
b. Have been in existence for at least fifteen (15) years and shall have been incorporated in the United States of America. (check)
c. Be national in scope and consist of a total of no less than one hundred (100) undergraduate and alumni chapters, which have a current financial membership of at least five (5) persons. Of the aforesaid 100 undergraduate and alumni chapters, a total of no less than fifty (50) must have been a part of the fraternity or sorority for at least ten (10) years. (i dont know how involved NPC membership is on an alum level, but i'd think 50 is no problem... lets say check)
d. Have constitutional provisions for a national convention, with interim authority vested in trustees, a board of directors or the officers who supervise the affairs of the fraternity or sorority. (check, right? i havent gone through Phi Mu's website so i dont know)
e. Have undergraduate chapters recognized by and be in good standing with accredited four-year colleges or universities which offer at least a baccalaureate degree. (check, obviously)

and i would wonder why after X many years, an NPC org (or any org for that matter) would hypothetically leave their governing council. as for you joining NPHC because of NPC's "strict expansion policy," i dont think that's valid. someone correct me if im wrong, but doesn't each NPHC org have their own policies re: expansion?

example: If XYZ State University wants an NPHC sorority on their campus, i dont think representatives from all 4 orgs get an expansion package together and present to the school's office. in other words, each NPHC organization will come to the school on its own terms, independent of NPHC.

am i correct? if not, let me know.

[jubilance1922]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

No.

Lambda Theta Alpha may be a part of a particular university's NPHC but it is not recognized nationally as such. "Recognized by the Divine Nine" is just a reference to the warm welcome they've received from some NPHCers. By saying "by" they are acknowledging that it's still the Divine Nine of which they are not a member.

Isn't it against NPHC by-laws to have non-NPHC orgs active in a local NPHC?

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by jubilance1922

Isn't it against NPHC by-laws to have non-NPHC orgs active in a local NPHC?

Yes, but it happens anyway.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by tld221

and i would wonder why after X many years, an NPC org (or any org for that matter) would hypothetically leave their governing council. as for you joining NPHC because of NPC's "strict expansion policy," i dont think that's valid. someone correct me if im wrong, but doesn't each NPHC org have their own policies re: expansion?

example: If XYZ State University wants an NPHC sorority on their campus, i dont think representatives from all 4 orgs get an expansion package together and present to the school's office. in other words, each NPHC organization will come to the school on its own terms, independent of NPHC.

am i correct? if not, let me know.

What she means is this.

If there's a group of girls on a campus that want to form a chapter of Phi Mu, Phi Mu can't just come to the school and meet them, say "hey! You are awesome! We really dig this school! We want you to be our sisters!" and make them a Phi Mu colony.

They (they as in Phi Mu) have to wait until the campus panhellenic votes to open the campus for expansion.
They have to also make sure National Panhellenic OKs the expansion.
Then, once the campus is officially "open for expansion," any NPC sorority that doesn't have a chapter there can send a packet indicating their interest. Even if these other NPC groups KNOW that the girls on the campus want Phi Mu, if they consider it a desirable expansion opportunity, they will send a packet anyway.
The campus panhellenic looks at all the packets they've received, and picks what they think are the 3 best groups to come and present to them. And guess what? Phi Mu isn't included in the 3.
They went from having a "lock" to not even being in the race.

So to make a long story short (guess it's too late for that), if you feel like you are continually getting hosed when it comes to NPC expansion opportunities, you might not want to be in NPC anymore. And yes, I can see it happening at some point.

(The use of Phi Mu in this story is for dramatic purposes only. )